I got my copy of this message June 22, 2013!

  Wayne


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> From: Martyn Hodgson <[email protected]>
> Subject: [LUTE] Re: The "golden" rose
> Date: May 4, 2014 at 8:35:52 AM EDT
> To: Mathias Rösel <[email protected]>, Lute List 
> <[email protected]>
> Reply-To: Martyn Hodgson <[email protected]>
> 
>   It's almost 12 months since I sent this mail- is this a record delay on
>   Wayne's list!
>   Martyn
>     __________________________________________________________________
> 
>   From: Mathias RAP:sel <[email protected]>
>   To: Lute List <[email protected]>
>   Sent: Sunday, 4 May 2014, 13:27
>   Subject: [LUTE] Re: The "golden" rose
>> Dear David,
>> You are probably right - forget the papal rose line. Though perhaps
>   the
>> rose reference is some personal link known to those around G at the
>> time. But perhaps a gilded rose is likely - I'm just cautious about
>> proceeding from speculation to certainty............
>> It does sound, tho', as if the thing had been nicked!
>> regards
>> Martyn
>   Perhaps Martyn was not at all far from the spot. There was a papal
>   golden
>   rose in Ennemond Gaultier's immediate environment. His employer's
>   daughter,
>   Henrietta Maria, received a papal golden rose in 1625. She had been
>   Madame
>   Royale as of 1622 (later creating what today is known as the role of
>   Princess Royal in the UK). She "was trained, along with her sisters, in
>   riding, dancing, and singing, and took part in French court plays"
>   (Wiki),
>   that way most certainly being in the environment of Ennemond Gaultier
>   (or
>   him being in hers, rather) who was employed by her mother, queen Maria
>   de'
>   Medici. In 1625, she left her mother and France for her marriage with
>   Charles I. of England. The loss of the golden rose may well be imagined
>   as
>   the mother's loss of her daughter, bearing that rose. That would well
>   match
>   the character of the related allemande grave in F minor by Ennemond
>   Gaultier
>   (Burwell lute tutor, ch. xv). And while we're at it, why would a gilded
>   lute
>   rose not allude to that lost Golden Rose?
>   Mathias
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