Quite correct, Jean-Michel ! I was too quick in my response and Dimitri's 
interpretation needed érevision" ;-). So all the gear up an octave except 
courses 1 and 2... I will have to try that one day :-) 

Salut et à bientôt, ;-)

Jean-Marie 


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>I don't understand the text of Besard like that (nor Souris did, and he 
>explain that widely in his introduction of the CNRS Besard). All the courses 
>from 10th to 3rd are an octave up, and the 2 top strings are as "normal" G 
>lute (so re-entrant tuning, not far from tiorbino).
>
>Le Mercredi 21 mai 2014 23h45, Thomas Walker <twlute...@hotmail.com> a écrit :
> 
>
>
>   Thanks kindly, everyone!  It's what I suspected, but the comparative
>   rarity of an "ordinary" lute in reentrant tuning sent my looking for
>   some verification.
>   Cheers,
>   tom
>   > Date: Wed, 21 May 2014 20:17:25 +0200
>   > To: mar...@luteshop.co.uk; lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
>   > From: jmpoiri...@wanadoo.fr
>   > Subject: [LUTE] Re: Besard's Novus Partus
>   >
>   > " Nous appelons celui-ci "Nouveau Luth" non parce qu'il aurait une
>   forme (construction) nouvelle, mais seulement `a cause du nouvel
>   accord, qui n'est pas ingrat selon l'opinion de maintes (personnes).
>   C'est nous qui l'avons invente un jour. S'il differe peu en accord du
>   theorbe (comme on l'appelle), pourtant bien avant de connaitre cet
>   instrument j'accordais souvent le luth de cette maniere, mieux apte
>   pour la musique de n'importe quelle voix. Et ce seulement parce que
>   (par rapport `a l'accord ordinaire) la basse frappe l'oreille de fac,on
>   plus claire, sonore et nette. Pourtant pour cet accord il est
>   absolument necessaire de composer de morceaux speciaux."
>   >
>   > Voici la traduction du passage de Besard proposee par Dimitri
>   Goldobine...
>   >
>   > Re-best, ;-)
>   >
>   > Jean-Marie
>   > --------------
>   >
>   > >I think Besard explains the Nova Testudo in his preface - can
>   someone
>   > >help with the text? As I remember it is top two courses down an
>   octave,
>   > >like the theorbo.
>   > >
>   > >M
>   > >On 21/05/2014 18:10, Thomas Walker wrote:
>   > >> Hello all--
>   > >> Do any of you have a view(s) on what instrument Besard wanted for
>   his
>   > >> Nova Testudo? The other lutes seem pretty clearly to be 9 or 10
>   course
>   > >> instruments a 4th apart. The top lute, to me, looks like he's
>   assuming
>   > >> reentrant tuning. I'm tempted to think of Castaldi's tiorbino, but
>   > >> that seems less likely outside of Italy that early in the 17th c.
>   > >> Thoughts?
>   > >> Thanks kindly,
>   > >> Thomas Walker, Jr.
>   > >>
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>   > >>
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