Thank you for the information on that section, Arthur. Some of them really are just a _little_ easier. In light of their being MN's autograph I'll visit them again soon.
If others are interested in more of this difficult music there is also the Phalese collection of Bacfark, deRippe and others (incl. MN) of 1574. Be sure to check them against more certain sources, if you plan to get serious with them. http://tinyurl.com/l2k5t72 Sean On Feb 21, 2015, at 1:30 AM, AJN wrote: Dear Sean, The pieces in the first fascicle of Mus Ms 266 (and other manuscripts in the same hand) were sent to the Duke of Bavaria by Melchior Newsidler himself (b. 1531--son, not brother of Hans). I was able to compare the handwriting in a letter to the duke with the tablatures. In December 1577, Newsidlerwrote his patron Wilhelm II, Duke of Bavaria, "Most serene, honorable Prince, kind Lord, Your princely Grace: Sent is my most humble pledge, as well as wishes for a radiant,good, and peace-filled New Year. Always before, when wanting to be rememberedby Your princely Grace, I have humbly presented some pieces for the lute. To that end I also want to comply [this year] and thereforehave compiled some quite good German dances, which I do humbly present." Fascicles in his hand survive in Mus Mss 266 (nos. 1-14), 1627 (nos. 1-12: more intabulations), 2987 (nos. 37-8--left in one of the enormous Lasso choir books), and Paris BN Res 429 (first fascicle: 2v-48v: Italian dances). Many of the pieces appear in his prints, but often in more ornate versions, suggesting he sent early versions to the duke. Melchior's output numbers over 200 pieces, making him the most prolific lutenist-composer of the Renaissance. Contents of the available Munich manuscripts are below. The prints are identified by Brown serial numbers, and "<" indicates that the printed version is more ornamented than the manuscript version. (By the way, Rohrau is near the Newsidler Lake, a few miles south of Vienna. Haydn was born there, and his mother worked in Graf Harrach's kitchen. She might well have overheard Weiss' music from the Rohrau and Harrach manuscripts, which were mentioned here a few days ago.) Munich,Bayerische Staatsbibliothek, Mus Ms 266 (1v-2) Alla dolce Ombra di Cipriano [de Rore] / A 4 (2v-3) Signor mio Caro di Cipriano / A 4 <1566/2, No.7 =1572/11, No. 8 [clip_image001.png] [clip_image003.png] (3v-4) Carita di signore: / A 4 di Cipriano <1566/2, No. 8] (4-4v) Con leyfus'A.io / Jaques de pont [Does not =1566/2 (differenttuning)] (5v-6) Pis ne me Peult Venir a 5/ Criquillon <1572/1, No. 16 (6-6v) Vray dieu disois A 4 Orlando [Lasso] < 1566/2, No.15 =1572/1, No. 28 (7v-8) SousSpirs ardans [Arcadelt] <266, No. 136 < 1566/2, No. 10 (8v-9) Passa e mezo M[elchiorl N[ewsidler] =1566/2, No. 13 (l0v-11) Bewar mich herr [Zirler?] <1572/1, No. 24 <1574/5. No. 23 (11v-12) Iomi son giovinetta [Ferabosco] <1572/1, No. 24 <1574/5, No. 23 <Mus ms 266, No. 134 (13 [formerly 76ff.])Hay Lass A. 4 di Orlando [Lasso] <1566/2, No. 12 <1572/1, No. 21 (13v-14) Susanna / Vng Jour A.5. / di Orlando =1566/3, No. 7 <1573/3, No. 22 > Mus ms 266, No. 149 (That is, No. 149 is the model for the versionsof Mus ms 266, No. 13 and 1573/03, No. 22) (15-16v) Sancta Maria A.6. vocum / di Vertalot [unicum] Mus Ms 2987, No. 37-8 (12-12v) Susanna Vng Jour M[elchior] N[ewsidler] [Lupi Didier II] =?1586/5,No. 34 [similar embellishment] (13-13v) Per su hospitiboschi: I A.4. Voce di Constanze festa [unicum] On 02/19/15, Sean Smith<[1]lutesm...@mac.com> wrote: One more source, Dan: Bayerische Staatsbibliothek, Mus. Ms 266. It's reachable through the LSA facsimile source site, [2]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~lsa/links/Digital-Facsimiles.html You'll find the MNeusidler intabulations in the first few folios. I believe they are copied from his books. I don't know which one(s). Sean <<snip>> References 1. mailto:lutesm...@mac.com 2. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/ To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html