Yes - that's true. But Peter Phillips did in fact spend most of his life
in the Spanish Netherlands - he was organist of the Chapel Royal in Brussels
and his music was printed in Antwerp which would make it more accessible to
a Dutch lutenist. It may have been less well known in England.
Another reason why certain composers find their way into certain books - it
is a question of how accessible copies of their music were. Morales was
Spanish, and Gombert spent his working life in Spain which is why they
feature prominently in the vihuela books. Josquin would have had a more
widespread appeal but apparently not in England.
Another thing is that Latin church music immediately prior to the
Reformation in England by the likes of Sheppard and. Taverner as well as
Tallis not to mention the Eton Choirbook is too elaborate to lend itself to
intabulation. Something which Erasmus commented scathingly upon.
Regards
Monica
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From: "Martyn Hodgson" <hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk>
To: "Monica Hall" <mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk>; "Edward C. Yong"
<edward.y...@gmail.com>
Cc: "Lutelist" <lute@cs.dartmouth.edu>
Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2015 9:19 AM
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Polyphonic Intabulations
All good stuff explaining the paucity of many such intabulations at the
time. But, in fact, there are some late sixteenth century MS sources
which do preserve such latin intabulations - even outside Spain and
even of English composers (eg Phillips).
In particular, the largest single volume manuscript source for the
lute, now known as the Thysius lute book, complied by the extremist
theologian Adriaen Smout (1578/9 - 1646) preserves some. Amazingly for
such an extreme Calvinist (he was banished from tolerant Remonstrant
Holland for preaching that blasphemy and heresy should be punished by
certain death - shades of today's sad world) he intabulated many latin
motets, as well as Calvinist psalms, by such as Phillips, Lappi,
Bussoni, Belli, et al. More on this appears in a review in Early Music
Performer 2010 of the excellent facsimile edition produced by the Dutch
Lute Soc. Still available I believe.
regards
Martyn
__________________________________________________________________
From: Monica Hall <mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk>
To: Edward C. Yong <edward.y...@gmail.com>
Cc: Lutelist <lute@cs.dartmouth.edu>
Sent: Thursday, 19 March 2015, 8:47
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Polyphonic Intabulations
Interesting question - I think that part of the reason at least is that
after the reformation i.e from about 1540 very little Latin church
music
was composed by English composers. Byrd was an exception but actually
he
is quite late and he was a crypto catholic. The vihuela books don't
include
intabulations of music by Victoria for example which is late 16th
century.
This may also explain why English lutenists didn't intabulate music by
Josquin etc. They may not have been very familiar with it.
There is also a cultural difference. In Spain the vihuela was often
played
by members of religious orders in their times of leisure - hence the
interest in sacred intabulations. All religious orders were suppressed
in
England by no less that Thomas Cromwell.
Regards
Monica.
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From: "Edward C. Yong" <[1]edward.y...@gmail.com>
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Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2015 4:33 AM
Subject: [LUTE] Polyphonic Intabulations
> Hello folks!
>
> I've been going through intabulations of sacred polyphony for lute,
and
> after an admittedly brief search, I noticed something curious.
>
> The Continentals, particularly the Spanish, seem very interested in
> intabulations of sacred polyphony, but I haven't found any examples
of
> English/British either doing the intabulations or being intabulated.
>
> I've been looking at the Fuenllana, Narvaez etc, and I find Josquin,
> Morales, Gombert, but no Tallis or Byrd. Was English/British music
> entirely unpopular on the Continent?
>
> Curious,
>
> Edward C. Yong
> [3]edward.y...@gmail.com
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