Concordo con Francesco ! Excellent and rather worrying assessment... !
Best,
Jean-Marie




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>   Thank you for that reality check, Francesco.  Your points are well
>   taken.  It is far too easy to allow our collective passion for the
>   historical lute to devolve into chit-chat over consumer goods - even to
>   the point of treating our lutes as consumer goods.
>
>   Obviously, we have to accept that we live in the 21st century and
>   technologies like synthetic strings (and clever lute notation software)
>   are relevant, useful and difficult to avoid. And while it is true that
>   the lute evolved over time to adapt to ever changing musical tastes and
>   new technologies, I think it's important to remember that the lute and
>   everything it represents should maintain it's place as a symbol of the
>   historical aesthetic that goes hand in hand with the music originally
>   composed for the instrument.  In my opinion, that is the most important
>   thing.
>
>   RA
>     __________________________________________________________________
>
>   From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu <lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu> on behalf
>   of Francesco Tribioli <tribi...@arcetri.astro.it>
>   Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2017 7:32 AM
>   To: 'lutelist Net'
>   Subject: [LUTE] Re: KF vs. new Aquila bass strings
>
>   I wonder what is left of the original idea of playing instruments,
>   built as
>   the original ones were built, with historically informed technique.
>   Single
>   strung archlutes, foldable theorbos, short theorbos strung with wound
>   strings, instruments with different vibrating lengths always tuned to
>   440
>   even stretching the physical limits of the instrument itself, synthetic
>   strings not even close to gut and even fishing lines, amplifiers,
>   mechanical
>   pegs, pop music played on the lute... Oh well... :-(
>   Francesco
>   > -----Messaggio originale-----
>   > Da: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [[1]mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu]
>   Per
>   > conto di Andreas Nachtsheim
>   > Inviato: mercoledì 30 agosto 2017 07:22
>   > A: Edward Martin <edvihuel...@gmail.com>
>   > Cc: Tristan von Neumann <tristanvonneum...@gmx.de>; George Arndt
>   > <george.ar...@hotmail.com>; lutelist Net <Lute@cs.dartmouth.edu>
>   > Oggetto: [LUTE] Re: KF vs. new Aquila bass strings
>   >
>   > Hello all....
>   >
>   > the name of the Japanese brand is 'Seaguar' (made by Kureha) and they
>   > produce lots of different carbon fishing line. I made real good
>   experiences
>   > with their 'orange line' of Fluorocarbon line - this goes up to .91,
>   but
>   the
>   > thicker ones (more than .52) are not easy to get in Europe. Their
>   black
>   label
>   > called 'Grand Max' is also very good (up to .52) Other brands
>   (available
>   in
>   > different diameters) I use are 'Gamakatsu G-Line' or 'Stroft'
>   >
>   > Andreas
>   >
>   >
>   >
>   > > Am 30.08.2017 um 01:49 schrieb Edward Martin
>   <edvihuel...@gmail.com>:
>   > >
>   > >   Very interesting indeed.   Among the very first users of carbon
>   strings
>   > >   is Toyohiko Satoh, and the original company was called I think
>   Seagar,
>   > >   or something like that.   They are a Japanese manufacturer of
>   fishing
>   > >   line.   So, all who use carbon are using fishing line.
>   > >   ed
>   > >
>   > >   On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 4:06 PM, Tristan von Neumann
>   > >   <[1]tristanvonneum...@gmx.de> wrote:
>   > >
>   > >     Hi George!
>   > >     Thanks for sharing your experience! I was exactly looking for
>   that
>   > >     answer, but no one had attempted full stringing on a
>   Renaissance
>   > >     lute and I forgot.
>   > >     What would you use for a 62cm Renaissance Lute 7c on G=415 or
>   432
>   > >     Hz?
>   > >     I'd be interested in a list and manufacturers, preferably those
>   > >     available in Europe.
>   > >     I thought monofilaments were thinner, the chanterelle was like
>   .33mm
>   > >     from Pyramid Strings. That could be a little hard on the holes.
>   > >     I also don't want to damage my lute by overstringing it...
>   > >     Thanks for the hint!
>   > >
>   > >   Am 29.08.2017 um 14:25 schrieb George Arndt:
>   > >
>   > >       Hello fellow lute players:
>   > >       I have been using salt water monofilament fishing line on my
>   lutes
>   > >   for
>   > >       the past three years with satisfactory results. The only
>   exception
>   > >       being the 7th course on Renaissance lutes and the diapasons
>   on my
>   > >       Baroque lute that are wound with metal. I matched the
>   diameter and
>   > >       length of the original strings with fishing line. If a string
>   was
>   > >       easily broken I use a larger diameter to replace it. If peg
>   > >   friction
>   > >       was a inadequate, I decrease string diameter and replace that
>   > >   string.
>   > >       If a string slapped the fingerboard I used a larger diameter
>   when
>   > >       I replace it.   One nice advantage is mono-filament strings
>   may be
>   > >       pigmented and this helped me as I was learning to play. After
>   three
>   > >       years I am satisfied with the result. It cost $120 for a
>   lifetime
>   > >       supply of strings for my seven lutes.
>   >
>   >
>   >
>   >
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