Thank you for you excellent and very useful work Peter!

   All the best,

   Jean-Marie Poirier

   Le 1 févr. 2018 à 21:14, Petrus Paulus Maria Steur
   <[1]p.st...@inrim.it> a écrit :

   Dear all,
   some of you might have a look at my enlarged website [2]mss.slweiss.de
   where the Cherbury is already present with a lot of concordances
   (hopefully all correct).
   Peter Steur
   Mail priva di virus. [3]www.avg.com
   2018-02-01 21:00 GMT+01:00 Jean-Marie Poirier
   <[4]jmpoiri...@wanadoo.fr>:

     Dear Göran,
     There is already quite a bit of work done by John H. Robinson
     regarding a number of pieces by Gaultier. It was the subject of
     a publication for the Lute Society back in 1997, a music supplement
     entitled Music in Vieil Ton by Gauthier. Not everything is there
     but it's a good starting point !
     To complete a recording I have done recently, I will publish a
     collection of the pieces in old tuning in the near future (for
     Corentto Verlag in Stuttgart)
     and, of course, I will try to give a few more concordances whenever
     possible. It takes time, as you know too well !
     In the meanwhile, here is a little video of a Preludium, anonymous
     but in a source where the Gaultier's pieces abound (Swan ms.) and
     a "Courrente Gautier" which appears in several European manuscripts
     of the 1620s or 30s...
     [5]https://youtu.be/-TNndX7KcUs
     All the best,
     Jean-Marie
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     >   Dear Jean Marie,
     >   I beg to differ about the quality of these little sketches, but
     look
     >   forward to an informed edition with the "motorized" versions. In
     the
     >   meantime it would be helpful with a concordance list for these
     short
     >   Gaultier pieces in the old tuning.
     >   Best wishes
     >   G.
     >   On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 2:03 PM, Jean-Marie Poirier
     >   <[1][6]jmpoiri...@wanadoo.fr> wrote:
     >
     >     Dear Gà�ran,
     >     I do certainly lean towards Ennemond, and most probably not
     Jacques,
     >     as Cherbury did not support the latter after he sought refuge
     in
     >     England to escape the King's justice and a certain death for
     the
     >     murder of a noble man in France ! Sorry Thurston ;-) !
     >     In my recent article in the Lute 2014, (English Lute Society)
     which
     >     can also be downloaded from Academia
     >     ([2][7]https://tinyurl.com/ydze2e2g)
     >     there is a note   (19) about this question, and I am grateful
     to
     >     Chris Goodwin for bringning this to my attention :
     >     "Franà�ois-Pierre Goy pointed out in a lecture to the Lute
     Society
     >     that Herbert was indeed
     >     involved as ambassador in France in negotiations about Jacques
     >     Gaultier's extradition, but
     >     we have no proof that he personally knew him and, as he writes
     in a
     >     letter that the lutenist
     >     fled to England à �for haveing killed a brave French Gentleman
     and of
     >     a noble house in a most
     >     base fashion', he may not even have wished to be acquainted
     with a
     >     man for whom he must
     >     have felt a deep contempt (Lute News, forthcoming). This may
     be a
     >     good reason to suppose
     >     that Lord Herbert would not have made an effort to collect
     Jacques
     >     Gaultier's music."
     >     If some of the pieces by "Gauthier" in the Cherbury Book can
     be
     >     regraded as "pedestrian", an opinion which I do not share ;-),
     don't
     >     forget that most of them can be found in other maunscripts in
     Europe
     >     and often with divisions in the repeats which indeed help to
     >     "motorize" them !
     >      All the best,
     >     Jean-Marie
     >     --------------
     >     >    When looking at the Gaultier pieces in Cherbury, I recall
     a
     >     recent
     >     >    discussion on the possibility of these being by Ennemond
     in
     >     vieil ton.
     >     >    All these pieces are very short and I must say rather
     >     pedestrian, and
     >     >    not indicative of the great fame of Ennemond. Thurston
     Dart in
     >     his 1957
     >     >    article leans quite firmly toward Jacques d'Angleterre
     being
     >     the
     >     >    Gaultier in question. Would those having delved more
     deeply
     >     into these
     >     >    pieces and their "style" agree?
     >     >    G.
     >
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