Thank you for you excellent and very useful work Peter! All the best,
Jean-Marie Poirier Le 1 févr. 2018 à 21:14, Petrus Paulus Maria Steur <[1]p.st...@inrim.it> a écrit : Dear all, some of you might have a look at my enlarged website [2]mss.slweiss.de where the Cherbury is already present with a lot of concordances (hopefully all correct). Peter Steur Mail priva di virus. [3]www.avg.com 2018-02-01 21:00 GMT+01:00 Jean-Marie Poirier <[4]jmpoiri...@wanadoo.fr>: Dear Göran, There is already quite a bit of work done by John H. Robinson regarding a number of pieces by Gaultier. It was the subject of a publication for the Lute Society back in 1997, a music supplement entitled Music in Vieil Ton by Gauthier. Not everything is there but it's a good starting point ! To complete a recording I have done recently, I will publish a collection of the pieces in old tuning in the near future (for Corentto Verlag in Stuttgart) and, of course, I will try to give a few more concordances whenever possible. It takes time, as you know too well ! In the meanwhile, here is a little video of a Preludium, anonymous but in a source where the Gaultier's pieces abound (Swan ms.) and a "Courrente Gautier" which appears in several European manuscripts of the 1620s or 30s... [5]https://youtu.be/-TNndX7KcUs All the best, Jean-Marie -------------- > Dear Jean Marie, > I beg to differ about the quality of these little sketches, but look > forward to an informed edition with the "motorized" versions. In the > meantime it would be helpful with a concordance list for these short > Gaultier pieces in the old tuning. > Best wishes > G. > On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 2:03 PM, Jean-Marie Poirier > <[1][6]jmpoiri...@wanadoo.fr> wrote: > > Dear GÃÆà �ran, > I do certainly lean towards Ennemond, and most probably not Jacques, > as Cherbury did not support the latter after he sought refuge in > England to escape the King's justice and a certain death for the > murder of a noble man in France ! Sorry Thurston ;-) ! > In my recent article in the Lute 2014, (English Lute Society) which > can also be downloaded from Academia > ([2][7]https://tinyurl.com/ydze2e2g) > there is a note (19) about this question, and I am grateful to > Chris Goodwin for bringning this to my attention : > "FranÃÆà �ois-Pierre Goy pointed out in a lecture to the Lute Society > that Herbert was indeed > involved as ambassador in France in negotiations about Jacques > Gaultier's extradition, but > we have no proof that he personally knew him and, as he writes in a > letter that the lutenist > fled to England à �for haveing killed a brave French Gentleman and of > a noble house in a most > base fashion', he may not even have wished to be acquainted with a > man for whom he must > have felt a deep contempt (Lute News, forthcoming). This may be a > good reason to suppose > that Lord Herbert would not have made an effort to collect Jacques > Gaultier's music." > If some of the pieces by "Gauthier" in the Cherbury Book can be > regraded as "pedestrian", an opinion which I do not share ;-), don't > forget that most of them can be found in other maunscripts in Europe > and often with divisions in the repeats which indeed help to > "motorize" them ! > All the best, > Jean-Marie > -------------- > > When looking at the Gaultier pieces in Cherbury, I recall a > recent > > discussion on the possibility of these being by Ennemond in > vieil ton. > > All these pieces are very short and I must say rather > pedestrian, and > > not indicative of the great fame of Ennemond. Thurston Dart in > his 1957 > > article leans quite firmly toward Jacques d'Angleterre being > the > > Gaultier in question. Would those having delved more deeply > into these > > pieces and their "style" agree? > > G. > > > > > -- > > > > > >To get on or off this list see list information at > >[3][8]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html > > -- > >References > > 1. mailto:[9]jmpoiri...@wanadoo.fr > 2. [10]https://tinyurl.com/ydze2e2g > 3. [11]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html > -- References Visible links 1. mailto:p.st...@inrim.it 2. http://mss.slweiss.de/ 3. http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail 4. mailto:jmpoiri...@wanadoo.fr 5. https://youtu.be/-TNndX7KcUs 6. mailto:jmpoiri...@wanadoo.fr 7. https://tinyurl.com/ydze2e2g 8. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html 9. mailto:jmpoiri...@wanadoo.fr 10. https://tinyurl.com/ydze2e2g 11. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html Hidden links: 13. http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail 14. file://localhost/net/ifs-users/lute-arc/L7297-5332TMP.html#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2