That would be marvelous indeed ! Best wishes,
Jean-Marie > Le 1 févr. 2018 à 20:05, Nancy Carlin <na...@nancycarlinassociates.com> a > écrit : > > Yes, I was the LSA's 2nd Microfilm Librarian back starting c1975, and I > have a number of binders with paper copies made from films. Now if you > want a black and white, readable version of Cherbury you can find it on > Sarge Gerbode's website, but there are no concordances and you have to > have a table, play from your computer screen or print it out. > Meanwhile for those who love films and digital versions of lute music, > plans are afoot for the whole LSA Microfilm Library to be digitized and > available in the Members Only section of our website. If things go on > schedule it could happen this Spring. > Nancy > > Dear Nancy, > Many years ago the only way to obtain copies of many of these MSs was > to pay for a microfilm copy which the collections often then seemed > willing to make. Some 20/30 years ago the late, and much missed, Donald > Gill gave me a photocopy of Cherbury printed from such a microfilm. > Legibility is not good but is quite passable under decent illumination. > My point in mentioning this is that if a decent facsimile is not > forthcoming shortly, then players could always explore this > possibility. When I archived Donald's collection I didn't find this > microfilm so presumably he borrowed a microfilm - perhaps from the Lute > Society or Lute Society of America.... > regards > Martyn > PS I also very much agree with Ron: I find paper copies superior to > trying to read these things from a screen - also with the added > advantage that I can turn corners over to mark pieces I find > particularly notable and can pencil concordances and other observations > in the margins......... M. > __________________________________________________________________ > > From: Nancy Carlin [1]<na...@nancycarlinassociates.com> > To: Ron Andrico [2]<praelu...@hotmail.com>; [3]"lute...@aol.com" > [4]<lute...@aol.com>; [5]"lute@cs.dartmouth.edu" > [6]<lute@cs.dartmouth.edu> > Sent: Wednesday, 31 January 2018, 18:54 > Subject: [LUTE] Re: Cherbury lute book > Chris, > I agree with Ron. I use both digital and book format music and have > been > waiting to buy the Cherbury ms since I first heard about it. I am > especially interested in the noes and concordances. > Nancy >> Dear Chris: >> >> I'm writing in response to Hector's lute list posting on the > subject of >> the Herbert facsimile under consideration for publication. I > would buy >> the Lute Society facsimile edition, and would actively encourage > others >> to do so as well. >> >> There is a certain misconception that, because pdf facsimiles may > be >> readily available from libraries, there is no longer a need for, > nor a >> demand for, good quality printed editions of lute music. I have >> observed that while lute players love to collect music, and also > love >> to get free music, there is simply no replacement for a > well-designed >> printed edition that includes essays on historical background and >> concordances. >> >> I'll wager that most downloaded facsimile editions are simply > archived >> on hard drives and remain there unused. And as much as > technophiles >> love to tout the latest i-pad gizmos, nothing can replace real > paper >> music on a music stand. I'm not the only person who has observed > that >> information from a printed page is mentally processed much more >> effectively than information on a backlit screen. >> >> Yes, please do what is necessary to advance the Herbert facsimile >> project. >> >> Best wishes, >> >> Ron >> > __________________________________________________________________ >> >> From: [7]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu <[8]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu> > on behalf >> of Hector Sequera <[9]hectorl...@mac.com> >> Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2018 1:55 PM >> To: [10]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu >> Subject: [LUTE] Re: Cherbury lute book >> >> Good afternoon, >> In reply to the original question, the Lute Society just sent an > email >> to its membership to assess whether or not there is any interest > on >> this. Your reply to the message below may determine the fate of > this >> project. If interested simply reply to the secretary at: >> [11]lute...@aol.com <[1]mailto:[12]lute...@aol.com> >> Here is the original message sent this morning to the LS list: >> â€"â€"â€"â€"â€"â€"â€"â€"â€"â€"â€"â€"â€"â€"â€" >> 1. HERBERT OF CHERBURY LUTE BOOK FACSIMILE â€" WOULD YOU BUY A > COPY? >> >> We have been talking for some years about producing a facsimile of > the >> Herbert of Cherbury lute book, the last great English renaissance > lute >> manuscript, with music from 6 to 10 courses, but there have been >> delays. >> >> We don’t need prepayments or subscriptions but we need to have > some >> idea of demand â€" especially as sales of facsimiles are less than > they >> were, with some much available online. >> >> If a facsimile of the Herbert of Cherbury lute book were similar > in >> format to our beautiful Dd.2.11 facsimile, and similar in price - > £50 >> to members - WOULD YOU VERY PROBABLY BUY A COPY? PLEASE REPLY TO > THIS >> EMAIL TO LET US KNOW! >> >> And let us know if this would be too expensive, but you would buy >> simple, say, black and white reproduction, for, say £25. >> â€"â€"â€"â€"â€"â€"â€"â€"â€"â€"â€"â€"â€"â€"â€"â€" >> Best wishes, >> Hector >>> On 31 Jan 2018, at 13:39, Matteo Turri > <[13]matteo.o.tu...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >>> >>> On 28 January 2018 at 12:42, Denys Stephens >> <[1][14]denyssteph...@sky.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Dear Matteo, >>> >>> Thanks for your email! The subject of the planned Cherbury >> facsimile >>> was discussed at the Lute Society committee meeting held last >> December, >>> and there was still strong interest in publishing a hard copy >> facsimile >>> at that time. However, it wasn't known then that the museum > would >> be >>> offering a PDF copy of the manuscript, and that may change > views >> within >>> the committee about the viability of a hard copy edition. So > I'm >> afraid >>> that I can't give you a definitive answer at the moment, but >> hopefully >>> a decision will be made on this later this year. A great deal > of >> work >>> has been done by the society on the introductory material for > the >>> facsimile, and I feel sure that this will be made available by > the >>> society in some form in the not too distant future. >>> >>> >>> Best wishes, >>> >>> >>> Denys Stephens >>> >>> >>> From: Matteo Turri [[2]mailto:[2][15]matteo.o.tu...@gmail.com] >>> Sent: 27 January 2018 13:21 >>> To: [3][16]denyssteph...@sky.com >>> Subject: Lord Herbert of Cherbury's Lutebook (now available as > a >>> downlload) >>> >>> >>> Dear Denys, >>> >>> since the Fitzwilliam Museum makes available a download of the >>> facsimile of the Lord Herbert of Cherbury's Lutebook - for > £25.00 >> you >>> get access to "a free download" [sic] - , I was wondering when >> the >>> Lute Society will publish its edition of the manuscript. >>> >>> Best regards >>> >>> Matteo Turri >>> >>> On 31 January 2018 at 11:54, Rainer > <[4][17]rads.bera_g...@t-online.de> >>> wrote: >>> >>> I seem to remember that the English LS had announced a > facsimile >>> edition. >>> Rainer >>> On 31.01.2018 11:19, G. C. wrote: >>> >>> Yes, 25 pounds for a "free download" :D >>> G. >>> On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 11:12 AM, Rainer >>> <[1][5][18]rads.bera_g...@t-online.de> wrote: >>> Have you received a reply? >>> Rainer >>> On 20.01.2018 10:52, Matteo Turri wrote: >>> We are pleased to offer complete digital copies of > the >>> following >>> manuscripts from the Fitzwilliam collection, > supplied >> in >>> pdf >>> format >>> and available via a free download or on CD. >>> Cost: £25.00 +vat per manuscript (inc. postage > where >>> necessary). >>> As I understand it, it's either a free download for > the >>> pdf or >>> £25 for >>> the CD. >>> I just sent them an email - we'll see. >>> Matteo >>> To get on or off this list see list information at >>> >> [2][6][19]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html >>> -- >>> References >>> 1. mailto:[7][20]rads.bera_g...@t-online.de >>> 2. > [8][21]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html >>> >>> -- >>> >>> References >>> >>> Visible links >>> 1. 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