Dan, so if your instrument goes up to "r", do you count "q" as a fret? My issue with my initial post was how those positions above the octave are labelled. And in the example tab I cited, if "t" refers to the 4th above the octave there is one letter missing. My assumption was that "q" was skipped. Jurgen
---------------------------------- “There is a voice that doesn’t use words. Listen.” Jalāl ad-Dīn Muhammad Rumi ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ On Saturday, March 30, 2019 7:27 AM, Dan Winheld <dwinh...@lmi.net> wrote: > I have seen pics of 18th century d-minor lutes (no idea if that was an > original setup), usually swan neck variety with 14 frets. Makes sense to > me, there's room and no reason not to. I don't often run through the > Bach d-minor suite but when I come to the chaconne I hit that spot & > wonder when I am going to glue on those last two frets. My 8 course goes > up to fret r because of some Piazzolla arrangements I made a few years ago. > > Dan > > On 3/29/2019 2:34 AM, Susan Price wrote: > > > I always have my baroque Lutes with 14 frets, and I use that high g all > > the time (for instance in the Bach chacone). 2 of my archlutes go up to > > fret Q because I wrote a piece that goes that high. > > > > Susan > > > > -------- Original message -------- > > From: Rainer <rads.bera_g...@t-online.de> > > Date: 3/28/19 9:39 AM (GMT-07:00) > > To: Lute List <lute@cs.dartmouth.edu> > > Subject: [LUTE] Re: fret positions above the 12th fret (re-re) > > > > Yes, it's as simple as that. > > n > > o, > > p, > > .. > > so j is the only one that is not used. In those days there was no real > > difference between "i" and "j". > > Dowland uses p somewhere, Piccinini goes much higher (20th fret) and > > ages ago somebody found a piece that went even higher (I think it was > > 26) in an 18th century tablature. > > Rainer > > On 28.03.2019 11:11, Jurgen Frenz wrote: > > > Hello there, > > > > > > my apologies, I forgot that the list bot doesn't handle images so > > a > > > message I sent earlier was unreadable. So here I go again, with > > the > > > relevant image of the tabulature linked to google drive. > > > > > > I didn't find an answer online or on the British Lute Society's > > FB page > > > as to how positions above the octave are identified on a lute. > > There is > > > this curious section in Mercure d'Orléan's "Auff der > > Schlacht > > von > > > Padua" in Fuhrmann's Testudio p.188 where he notates notes as > > "p", "r" > > > and "t". As I don't want to trust my assumption that these would > > > correspond to finger positions 14,15 and 17 or the notes 'a', > > 'bb' and > > > 'c' assuming a lute in g I am asking here for the facts. And > > where are > > > these finger positions or 'fret names' codified? I attach a > > screen shot > > > of the last two lines of that page. Oh and I don't want to > > discuss the > > > musical quality of that lengthy piece. > > > > > > > > [1]https://drive.google.com/open?id=1UFZSHsdgjwXBpMlci5oO-rzriDIpBA9Z > > > > > > Any advice would be very welcome! > > > > > > Best wishes Jurgen > > > > > > ---------------------------------- > > > "There is a voice that doesn't use words. Listen." > > > > > > JalÄl ad-DÄ«n Muhammad Rumi > > > > > > References > > > > > > 1. > > https://drive.google.com/open?id=1UFZSHsdgjwXBpMlci5oO-rzriDIpBA9Z > > > > > > > > > To get on or off this list see list information at > > > http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html > > > > >
