Now that you mention Mersenne...

https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k63326258/f320.highres


But seriously, the question of how the instruments were built is important,

but I'm really interested in the music, or more specifically, pieces
that are derived from harp playing.

I know that new tunings in England are called "harp-way" or something,
but what about earlier times?

And does anyone know genuine Irish music for Lute?


On 21.07.20 21:04, David Brown wrote:
    Hello Martyn and luters...


    As my mail client and VPN seem to insist on arguing, I’ll take my
    chances of getting this out….


    Since Mudarra and Spanish harp was brought up and I was re-reading
    Peter Holman’s 1987 article in Early Music, Holman mentions the
    possibility that the painting “The Cabal”, at Nostell Priory , by J. B.
    Medina that “could be” Charles Evans with his Italian harp. I am
    certain the Spanish harp had its influences on the Italian triple harp,
    but this harp appears to be a Spanish double. J. B. Medina was born in
    Bruxelles to a Spanish army captain trained with a Flemish Protrait
    painter. This might explain something about the representation of a
    Spanish harp? What does this have to say about the Cabal?


    This is a small example of research which the word “appears” is used.
    Appearance is in the eye of the beholder, and in this case it “appears”
    to be a Spanish harp to me. I should be able to produce an example of
    an extant Spanish double??? I think it is cross strung…., but later…
    Bartolomo Jovenardi needs to be put into the mix about now to make
    things grey..


    Mersenne illustrates a triple harp that looks a bit more Spanish and
    relays the story of the triple being  invented in Naples, it appears
    with the influence of the staved Spanish harp. This, could have been
    his interpretation of a triple harp and possibly influenced by the
    origin story.


    Please don’t take me wrong, Holman is asking and speculating important
    questions that need (needed in 1987) to be asked. Where would we be if
    we didn’t ask questions and speculate only to have them changed with
    more information later? It certainly doesn’t change the majority of
    evidence that the wire strung harp was probably used in the Lawes
    consorts… The Italian harp in England early on, remains a grey area
    with hopefully more insight to come.


    Anyway, this seems to be going way out of the lute realm and into the
    harp area and maybe should be taken off list?…. The start was that
    painting of the weird instrument….


    Pardon


    Sincerely


    David



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