On Tue, Oct 31, 2006 at 04:00:21PM +0000, José Matos wrote:

> > That it just happened without discussion of whether it makes sense,
> > unlike when I disabled it, when I actually asked people?
> 
>   John time passes and my memory is not improving. :-)
> 
>   Do you remember the arguments at that time?

Besides us not having any support for remembering it in a session, it's
far too easy to pop out toolbars. I've also never understood why it's
preferable to have toolbars that occlude other windows (and indeed UI
design experts agree...). We do not have toolbars of an unusual size
(though as someone's already pointed out, we do have ones that require
being the shape they are by default.)

Two final notes: Firefox removed its 'grippies', and when I disabled
them in LyX, we didn't have anyone complain.

It was originally done in:

http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=lyx-devel&m=105009954502262&w=2

Note that the /right/ thing to do is to let the toolbars be moved when
in the "Edit Toolbars" dialog (but not torn off).

regards
john

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