On 2015-11-02, Scott Kostyshak wrote: > On Sun, Nov 01, 2015 at 10:31:32PM +0000, Guenter Milde wrote: >> On 2015-11-01, Scott Kostyshak wrote:
... >> >> While there is a use case for LuaTeX and TeX fonts, I can't see a >> >> reason to use XeTeX instead of pdflatex with TeX fonts! >> > The use case that I have in mind is simply that I expect our users might >> > use such a combination. If we don't want to support the combination, we >> > should output a useful error message explaining why, or just disable the >> > combination. If not, users will use it. >> Or treat the combination XeTeX + TeX fonts as a non-standard use case >> that we do not prevent but discourage. > OK but how do we discourage? In the documentation? What about one of > those warning boxes that has the checkbox "don't show this warning > again". So the first time a user tries to compile with XeTeX and TeX > fonts it warns them "It is not useful to use XeTeX and TeX fonts. You > might prefer to use PDF (pdfTeX) or use PDF (XeTeX) with system fonts > by going to Document > Settings > Fonts. Yes, something in this line. Another idea would be to pop up this explanation only if an error occurs +1 less "noise" -1 no warning for problems that do not lead to compiling errors With #9744 fixed, this warning window would also come up rather seldom anyway. >> This is similar to, e.g. the "language default (without inputenc)" option >> for the inputencoding: this option fails inevitably without additional user >> input in the LaTeX preamble. > OK but I think it is a stranger case that a user goes into the settings > and changes that than just click on the button for PDF (XeTeX). Yes, this is the reasoning behind #9744: >> This is, basically, what I want in Ticket #9744: the toolbar button would >> call XeTeX with Unicode fonts by default. The simpler approach would be to prominently document that not all choices in "view other formats" are suited for any document and give examples: * long documents with "View EPS (cropped)" or "View PDF (cropped)" * documents relying on ERT with "View HTML" * documents using TeX fonts with XeTeX Of course, these approaches can be combined. Günter
