On Thu, Jan 17, 2019 at 11:44:15PM +0000, Guenter Milde wrote:
> On 2019-01-17, Kornel Benko wrote:
> > Am Mittwoch, 16. Januar 2019 14:20:37 CET schrieb Scott Kostyshak 
> > <skost...@lyx.org>:
> 
> >> We should at some point
> >> come up with a guideline. For example, we could test validity of .lyx
> >> files and convergence for the previous 4 version file formats, and test
> >> (in addition to validity and convergence) compilation of only the
> >> previous 2. Or something like that. I don't have any strong opinion on
> >> this. I guess we have to think about what is the best way to catch
> >> important regressions.
> 
> > +1
> 
> I'd like to look at this from a user perspective:
> 
> * The most serious bugs are, when my old documents no longer work.
> 
> * It is even more severe, 
> 
>   - if I cannot open them in LyX
>   - or if they become corrupted in a hidden way -- subtle changes that are
>     easily overlooked but may be fatal (missing content due to missing
>     characters or paragraphs, say).
> 
> * Failure to export to an earlier LyX version is less severe, especially
>   for really old versions. If everything else fails, I may try via LaTeX.

+1

> This is reflected in the unconditional commitment to ensure old files work
> while back-conversion is only provided "if reasonable".
> 
> However, currently our lyx2lyx export tests do it the other way round:
> 
> * starting point are files from the newest or last stable version
> 
> * we always test a round circle, so there is no chance to test 
>   regressions to forward-conversion in a file that fails with back-conversion.
>   
> * we only test if a file opens in LyX, not if LyX can generate output.
> 
> 
> Suggestions:
> 
> 1. test with documents originally from old LyX versions.
> 
>    We do have a large sample in lib/(doc|examples|templates) in the
>    respective version branches in the repository.
> 
>    test old documents for
> 
>    a) opening in lyx
>    
>    b) export to the default output

+1

> 2. test with recent documents

What do you mean with "recent documents"

>    a) export to old LyX formats   
>    
>    b) re-opening the exported file
>    
>    c) convergence
>    
>    d) export to the default format
>    
> While this increases the number of tests, it allows easier localisation of
> errors and also a more fine-grained tagging (inverting only non-fixable
> parts of the round-circle). 
> 

> However, the most important thing is that the most urgent regressions
> (problems with existing old documents) can be identified and be given 
> preference status when assigning valuable developer time.

+1

Scott

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