On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 11:46 AM RETRO Innovations <go4re...@go4retro.com>
wrote:

> On 4/16/2020 11:17 AM, Tom Wilson wrote:
> > Does the kit just not have a serial connector, or is it a DB-25?
> >
> > (fun trivia fact... there is no DB-9. The “B” refers to the size of
> > the shell, and the 9 pin D-Sun is axtually an E size. So a 9 pin port
> > is DE-9. But since so many people say it wrong, manufactures just
> > incorrectly call then DB-9.)
>
> Which makes it a redundant statement, right:  DE-9 = D(9)-9 :-)
>
> Jim
>
>
Not really. DE doesn't mean "9 pin." DE is the physical size of the shell.
9 is the number of pins. Both parts of the name are required to correctly
specify the connector.
A VGA port is the same size as a 9-pin serial port, but it has 15 pins on
three rows. So it's a DE-15HD. (As you'd expect, HD means "High Desnsity".)
A game port (the old school 15-pin one) is actually a DA shell, so it's
DA-15.

So this can cause confusion if you tell someone you need a "DB-15"
connector, since there are two D-Sub connectors that commonly use 15 pins -
the DE-15HD VGA connector and the DA-15

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Here's the size chart from Wikipedia
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D-subminiature>.

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