I'm sorry, I thought I was responding off-list, because John's email said
"off list" in it, and I didn't look carefully when replying.

I stand behind every word and I don't mind that it's public, but the list
didn't need to see all that, we were done with that and I do believe in
letting things die, and it includes *actual* swear words because I intended
it to be off list.

I was only even replying this many days later because this went to an
address that I hadn't checked in some days and so it was a "new" message on
that account.

Sorry again.

-- 
bkw

On Sun, Aug 2, 2020, 5:39 PM Brian White <bw.al...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Of course I did it again, because I did nothing in the first place, or any
> subsequent time.
>
> You are in the wrong. Adjust what you consider harmful into something more
> in tune with reality, and yes apologize for getting it a little wrong.
>
> You can in fact do that. whatever weird internal list of words you have
> been operating under, they didn't come from god, and they can be wrong and
> they can be changed. Your attempt to say you're just enforcing a rule that
> predates you is invalid and frankly silly.
>
> Yes, you do owe me and averyone else an apology for chastizing someone
> when they didn't do anything wrong, and for which they could not have
> possibly known not to do, because there is no published list of illegal
> words. Instead you may simply respond at any unpredictable time over
> anything. You cannot say "evryone knows whats bad" because it has been
> demonstrated quite clearly that everyone does not know, or have the same
> idea of what is obviously profane and what is not.
>
> You are simply in the wrong on this tiny detail, and you should apologize
> for even saying anything in the first place, and adjust your list of
> harmful language so that in the future you don't overstep like this again.
>
> I was about to upload a video of using the BCR port to power an arduino
> tpdd. The video is kind of crap. I can't freaking even say "please excuse
> the craptastic video, but here's this thing working..."
>
> Saying "crap" was itself already THE very way to avoid saying "shit". I
> cannot believe that you don't know this.
>
> Shall we write cr*p instead? But then everyone knows what it means, so
> what's the difference? It's just another spelling for the same word.
> essentially, or sayingvit in another language. Shall we write "excrement"
> or "feces" how are those any better? Or, maybe you don't like any of those
> either? It's illegal to reference bodily waste in any form, so when say,
> something has a "crappy interface" ...
>
> You're simply wrong. Adjust so as no no longer be wrong please, for the
> sake of the shared facility you are administering.
>
> Shall I dig up some kind of movie rating reference to show that "crap" is
> allowed in even G rated materials designed specifically for children? A
> list member should never have to become so lawyerly.
>
> When you say, "everyone knows", in this case that applies to you. Everyone
> does know. You should know what everyone else knows.
>
> The ridiculousness of this complaint over this word is the only reason
> anyone is talking about a published explicit list of banned words, because
> if you are going to complain about that, then you might complain about
> anything, and that makes the list into an uneasy place to try to
> communicate.
>
> Here's how you can tell that you are in the wrong and not that guy who
> said "crap":
>
> Your action chased him right off the list.
> His action did not chase anyone else off the list.
>
> That is a simple math to evaluate right there. Between you and that guy,
> you were the one who harmed the list. I know you thought you were
> protecting it, but go back and look at that very simple math again.
>
> --
> bkw
>
> On Thu, Jul 23, 2020, 6:16 PM John R. Hogerhuis <jho...@pobox.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 2:12 PM Brian K. White <b.kenyo...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Whoah you just did it again.
>>
>> Responded off list.
>>
>> -- John.
>>
>

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