Examples about the ram sockets:
A 100 motherboard, round sockets:
http://www.mvcsys.de/doc/remem_pics/full/mainboard.jpg
By contrast Olivetti usually (but not always) has leaf style:
https://ascii.jp/img/2022/03/03/3331148/o/e1be81b188aad285.png
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bkw
On 3/24/24 15:46, Eric wrote:
It's been a while since I sent out an update, but I wanted to let
everyone know that the M100 is working! Turns out there were multiple
issues.
Problem 1: A11 was stuck in a high state. Thanks to the advice from
PeterN, I used nippers to zero into the faulty IC (M21 Pin 14).
Problem 2 and 2.5: Found two bad ram modules (M8 and M9). This
surprised me, I was only expecting one to be bad. Thanks to Jeff Birt
for his open source SDRAM tester
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fFRrfUjogs
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fFRrfUjogs>). I built it and it
helped me identify the faulty ram.
So, the M100 is currently running with 2 of 4 ram modules. I think it
would be fun to build a couple modules to replace the faulty ones. It
looks like there are a few designs on the forum so I think that will be
the next project. Let me know if anyone recommends a specific design to
build.
Thanks again for everyone's assistance!
Eric
On Thursday, January 4, 2024 at 07:27:48 PM PST, Peter Noeth
<petern0...@gmail.com> wrote:
Back in the 70's and 80's, when I used to do component level repair on
Mini Computers (15" square PCBs in a card cage with an average of 150
TTL and CMOS ICs running at 5 volts), it was common practice to use a
sharp, close cutting, pair of nippers to cut the lead of an DIP IC at
the point where it enters the PCB to isolate it from the rest of the
circuit to debug problems like this.
Mind you, this was on PCBs with 8 to 12 circuit layers, so protecting
the PCB from trace damage was the top priority. We never removed an IC
unless we were absolutely sure it was defective. If isolating a suspect
IC lead this way proved not to be the cause, it was pressed back into
place and a solder bridge connected it back to the pad.
My experience is that it was extremely unlikely for the input pin of an
IC to be the guilty culprit when a signal was stuck high (above 3
volts), but it sometimes happened when a signal was stuck low (below 2
volts). The most common cause was an output pin of an IC.
I still use this method when I have to isolate PCB circuit problems.
Always isolating and checking output pins first.
Regards,
PeterN
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Is it possible that your CTRL or BREAK key are not working, thus you
are not able to do a cold reset? It could also be the M2 data bus
latch has the bit you mentioned stuck. Sometimes you can look at a
suspect bit on the oscilloscope and see incorrect voltage levels, or
what looks like multiple signals at once. Note that with the
multiplexed bus this can be difficult to spot as there are some
?normal? goofy looking waveforms when the bus is being multiplexed.
The code for the test harness test ROM is here:
https://github.com/Jeff-Birt/TRS-80-M100-M102-Test-Harness
<https://github.com/Jeff-Birt/TRS-80-M100-M102-Test-Harness> . The
test harness ROM board has a small built in LCD for feedback. You
won?t have this but you can follow how far it gets though the test
with your LA.
Jeff Birt
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Yes, I did hold down CTRL+BREAK+press reset. Repeated this three
times and the data is almost identical (repeatable results). I
triggered off of the reset signal and recorded 100ms pre-trigger and
2s post-trigger. Performed data review just after the RESET occurred.
Thanks again for everyone's help with this. I'm learning a lot
about this computer and feedback from the forum has been very
inspiring!
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