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-----Original Message----- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 10:36 PM To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: OS X Database Software, (Was database) I won't go on about databases and Screen Readers here as I'd be going off topic for the list so if you want more explanation then write me privately but I will say this, Screen Reader users - whether that be Windows or Mac - are deprived of good accessible and easy to use database software, I've been using Bento for the last 2 versions and like you I love the software because - well in my opinion at least - its exactly my idea of what a database should be and I've been programming with database languages/applications for over 20 years. The nearest thing Windows users have in my view is something called "Ask Sam". Under the LINUX OS there are several choices as is the case with IOS, Bento is the obvious example here but there's another nice database app called I Database for Ipad and Iphone. On 26/08/2011, at 11:50 AM, Bryan Jones wrote: > I'd like to add a plug for Bento, assuming your needs are for a simple, basic database. I've recently begun using Bento version 4 on my Mac and am liking it more all the time. I've found it to be very accessible with VO, although I can point out a few glitches as with almost any application. A patch was recently released to add Lion compatibility and it seems to be working fine so far. > > I find it to be simple to create new databases and have been able to import existing data files. It also automatically links to my iCal Events, iCal Tasks, Address Book, and photo libraries, and I like the fact that I can view and edit all of these in the tabular format offered within Bento. > > I've never used another database with a screen reader, so I don't have a reference point for screen reader ease-of-use regarding Bento. It took me some trial and error to figure out where I needed to interact, where I needed to press Return, and where I could just start typing to get the results I wanted, but after a few hours I felt pretty comfortable and really began moving along. I haven't tried any of the advanced formulas or fields yet, so can't speak to that level. > > I've also used the Bento iPhone App and have found it to be VO accessible too, but it has crashed on me a couple of times with no obvious cause. No data was lost. It is simple to setup wi-fi syncing between the iphone and mac apps, and there's also an iPad-specific version which I'm looking forward to testing. > > A note about the Bento for Mac PDF User Guide: I find it to be clear, concise, and easily navigable in Preview. It is a great example of a getting started guide, but it does not go very deep into the application. Fortunately, there are active User groups out there. > > As of this writing, Bento 4 is on sale in the Mac App Store and direct from FIleMaker for US $29.99, normally US $49.99. I don't know if the sale also applies outside of the US. > > You can also download a free 30 day trial from the following site: > http://www.bentotrial.com/trial/default.aspx > > HTH, > Bryan > > On Aug 22, 2011, at 10:40 AM, Gordon Smith wrote: >> You might try Bento from the Filemaker team, or else I am told that FileMaker Pro for Mac is now accessible. >> >> On 22 Aug 2011, at 15:06, Corman, Lee (OFB-LV) wrote: >> What database program works best with voiceover for the MAC? 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