Sounds like I need to give your shoulders a rub to calm you down. I rote to Apple about this too. So hopefully between us all they will get the message. Personally I was happy the way the voices were in the previous OS build. I liked Karen, but she seems to say things in a different way now. It is even harder to tell the difference between M and N.
Wish we could have Alex Chris On 14 Oct 2011, at 09:37, Dónal Fitzpatrick wrote: > Yes Nick that has been absolutely my experience, I'm glad to see you echoing > it. I've set the voice to the Australian one, I just can't determine if the > HQ voice has downloaded. When I put the "use compact voice" on, I do hear a > difference in sound. My point wasn't so much about using (or not) the irish > voice, it was simply that surely I should have a say in whether it downloads > or not? I mean, it's my damn iPhone isn't it? Maybe I want to keep the > space taken up by the premium voice for something else? > > Sighted users have choices in their visual displays in terms of themeing them > with wall-papers etc. Why shouldn't we as blind users have the same choices > over the "visual theming"? That last bit is an extract of a mail I sent to > apple, which yet again has been ignored. > > Dónal > On 14 Oct 2011, at 09:31, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > >> Hi Donál >> >> While it will download the premium voice, simply go into >> Settings>General>Accessibility>VoiceOver and toggle the "Use compact voice" >> switch to on. If you mainly don't want the Irish voice at all, simply go >> into Settings>General>International>Region Format and select the other >> format that you wish to use, such as UNited States. If a voice is available >> for the region you select depending on the language you have, it will switch >> to that voice when selected and if plugged in and connected to Wi-Fi, the >> voice will download. Unfortunately, you don't have much control over it from >> here on, and you can't monitor its progress to ensure it's downloading. >> Apple is supposed to have fixed it so that any voice you have switched to >> via the language rotor regardless of default language is supposed to >> download, if the compact switch is set to off, but I haven't seen this work >> at all yet. Also, the default voice will continue to speak element types. >> >> Regards, >> Nic >> On Oct 13, 2011, at 11:17 PM, Dónal Fitzpatrick wrote: >> >>> Sorry Chris don't follow you? >>> On 13 Oct 2011, at 22:14, chris hallsworth wrote: >>> >>>> Yes and change the default voice in International Settings. >>>> >>>> On 13/10/2011 21:20, Dónal Fitzpatrick wrote: >>>>> Hi All, >>>>> >>>>> Ok so if I've got this right, as soon as I plug my i-device into an AC >>>>> power outlet and assuming it's on a WIFI network, I'm going to get a >>>>> premium voice. As I may have mentioned before, the oirish one is >>>>> possibly the worst example of concatenative speech synthesis I've come >>>>> across in years. So, bluntly, is there a way to prevent apple's >>>>> nanny-state giving me a premium voice I don't want, and using up valuable >>>>> band-width I don't want to waste. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks. >>>>> >>>>> Dónal >>>>> Dónal Fitzpatrick >>>>> dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>> >>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>>> mac-access@mac-access.net >>>>> >>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >>>>> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>>> <http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html> >>>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>>> <http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/>. >>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>> <http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml> >>>>> >>>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >>>>> and worm-free! >>>>> >>>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by >>>>> visiting the list website at: >>>>> <http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/> >>>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>> mac-access@mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >>>> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> <http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> <http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/>. >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> <http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml> >>>> >>>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >>>> and worm-free! >>>> >>>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting >>>> the list website at: >>>> <http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/> >>> >>> Dónal Fitzpatrick >>> dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie >>> >>> >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>> mac-access@mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >>> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> <http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> <http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/>. >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> <http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >>> and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting >>> the list website at: >>> <http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access@mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at >> either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> <http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> <http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/>. >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> <http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting >> the list website at: >> <http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/> > > Dónal Fitzpatrick > dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access@mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at > either the list's own dedicated web archive: > <http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html> > or at the public Mail Archive: > <http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/>. > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > <http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml> > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and > worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > <http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: <http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html> or at the public Mail Archive: <http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/>. 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