i just command a on the box and type but i know you have the problems as I do 
i want you to log in though see if you get the busy issues I do if you can 

On Nov 30, 2011, at 5:40 PM, David Griffith wrote:

> yes but you still do  not get any feedback. For example I made a mistype 
> today and tried to navigate back to correct the error and it was impossible 
> to tell where the boxes had been entered or whether I had corrected the 
> error. I had a similar problem a couple of weeks ago and after 2 failed 
> logins had to switch to windows to safely complete a login so that my account 
> was not blocked.
> 
> 
> 
> David Griffith
> d.griff...@btinternet.com
> 
> 
> 
> On 30 Nov 2011, at 17:25, william lomas wrote:
> 
>> all you have two is type in each number it moves to the next one for you 
>> automatically
>> 
>> On Nov 30, 2011, at 3:36 PM, David Griffith wrote:
>> 
>>> I  have not got past the Nat West login screen on the Mac as the complete
>>> lack of feedback on the multiple secure edit boxes has unnerved me.
>>> Thanks for the tip about Google chrome but so far it has proved less
>>> responsive than safari in giving any click feedback on secure edit boxes for
>>> me. 
>>> 
>>> David Griffith
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
>>> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of william lomas
>>> Sent: 30 November 2011 14:16
>>> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
>>> Subject: Re: still can't use online banking
>>> 
>>> when you are logged in to nattiest though for uk banking do you get busy all
>>> the time when on accounts screen?
>>> use google chrome that's fine
>>> 
>>> On Nov 30, 2011, at 12:34 PM, David Griffith wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I am sad to say that I absolutely agree. Apple needs to concentrate on
>>> these everyday issues  as a matter of urgency.
>>>> 
>>>> I am afraid that, even now, I have to go back to Windows and Jaws for
>>> anything involving secure web pages. Even if pages load I have dreadful
>>> problems with passwords. The biggest feature request I would have for
>>> Voiceover would be to provide consistent click feedback when entering  text
>>> into secure edit boxes I have tried to access Nat West a few times using the
>>> Mac and Safari and have given up each time as the complete lack of feedback
>>> when entering password information is too confusing and unnerving.  oxes.
>>> Voiceover and Safari hardly ever achieve proper feedback on secure edit
>>> fields. . So in the last 2 days I tried to access GMail and the Sainsburys
>>> site. On theGMail   login I received only sporadic click feedback  confusing
>>> me as to whether key presses had been registered aor not. On the sainsbury
>>> site I received no feedback at all. In fact one of the few  places  I know
>>> where I have received anything like consistent click feedback in a password
>>> field is the App Store.
>>> E
>>>> ven here the first key press is silent . presumably because the first
>>> letter of my password is capitalised.  This is one of my biggest
>>> disappointments with the Mac.
>>>> As you know password automaters  will not work with the Nat West site as
>>> you need to enter randomly selected characters from password and pin, as you
>>> do with payment verification systems on shopping sites. Ebay is usable as
>>> having a paypal account and simple login makes it far easier.  
>>>> I  am not asking for any security breaches, just for voiceover to do its
>>> job of providing a click every time you type in an edit field. The
>>> equivalent of the sighted user seeing a star. We are being badly let down
>>> here. Both NVDA and Jaws have no problem with providing feedback in these
>>> same edit boxes so I am mystified as to why this is a problem for Voiceover.
>>>> This and the apparent inability of mac wordprocessin  software to handle a
>>> table in a word documents are big drawbacks. As an academic I am constantly
>>> confronted with documents with tables in. Lots of good things about the Mac
>>> but these are big problems of everyday usage which need to be sorted
>>> urgently.
>>>> 
>>>> David Griffith
>>>> d.griff...@btinternet.com
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 30 Nov 2011, at 07:25, william lomas wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>>   hi all my online banking is still not working under mac osx lion.
>>>>> All I still get is voiceover saying safari or lighting busy when i log
>>> in. 
>>>>> if i can't use the mac to do every day tasks like this then what's the
>>> point?
>>>>> the
>>>>> www.natwest.com
>>>>> bank i am with in the UK doesn't as far as I know have any flash. 
>>>>> rather than adding all these fancy new features like spaces and other 
>>>>> things we can't even use right apple need to address such basic 
>>>>> issues as these, all these claims of fastest web browser and 
>>>>> stability are no good for blind consumers
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