NVDA gives feedback on the stars in these secure edit fields fine which is what makes me think it is a VO problem. .
David Griffith -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Red.Falcon Sent: 30 November 2011 14:44 To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: still can't use online banking Hi there! Well I also have different experiences' with the secure fields! As stated before! But I'm not clear if it is a vo problem or is it that the sites have not enabled the feature properly when setting up there page in the first place! So is it Apples fault or the companies! If it is Apples fault and no matter what the companies do the secure field problem still happens, then I agree Apple should sort this out! And I would hope that we all could send a group Email [as one idea] to put the case across! I'm not very good at wording a document like that, but would gladly add my name to one! Colin Qapla! Chegh chew jaj Vam jaj Kak On 30 Nov 2011, at 14:16, william lomas wrote: > when you are logged in to nattiest though for uk banking do you get busy all the time when on accounts screen? > use google chrome that's fine > > On Nov 30, 2011, at 12:34 PM, David Griffith wrote: > >> I am sad to say that I absolutely agree. Apple needs to concentrate on these everyday issues as a matter of urgency. >> >> I am afraid that, even now, I have to go back to Windows and Jaws for anything involving secure web pages. Even if pages load I have dreadful problems with passwords. The biggest feature request I would have for Voiceover would be to provide consistent click feedback when entering text into secure edit boxes I have tried to access Nat West a few times using the Mac and Safari and have given up each time as the complete lack of feedback when entering password information is too confusing and unnerving. boxes. Voiceover and Safari hardly ever achieve proper feedback on secure edit fields. . So in the last 2 days I tried to access GMail and the Sainsbury's site. On theGMail login I received only sporadic click feedback confusing me as to whether key presses had been registered aor not. On the Sainsbury's site I received no feedback at all. In fact one of the few places I know where I have received anything like consistent click feedback in a password field is the App S tore. > E >> ven here the first key press is silent . presumably because the first letter of my password is capitalised. This is one of my biggest disappointments with the Mac. >> As you know password auto maters will not work with the Nat West site as you need to enter randomly selected characters from password and pin, as you do with payment verification systems on shopping sites. Ebay is usable as having a paypal account and simple login makes it far easier. >> I am not asking for any security breaches, just for voiceover to do its job of providing a click every time you type in an edit field. The equivalent of the sighted user seeing a star. We are being badly let down here. Both NVDA and Jaws have no problem with providing feedback in these same edit boxes so I am mystified as to why this is a problem for Voiceover. >> This and the apparent inability of mac word processing software to handle a table in a word documents are big drawbacks. As an academic I am constantly confronted with documents with tables in. Lots of good things about the Mac but these are big problems of everyday usage which need to be sorted urgently. >> >> David Griffith >> d.griff...@btinternet.com >> >> >> >> On 30 Nov 2011, at 07:25, william lomas wrote: >> >>> hi all my online banking is still not working under mac osx lion. >>> All I still get is voiceover saying safari or lighting busy when i log in. >>> if i can't use the mac to do every day tasks like this then what's the point? >>> the >>> www.natwest.com >>> bank i am with in the UK doesn't as far as I know have any flash. >>> rather than adding all these fancy new features like spaces and >>> other things we can't even use right apple need to address such >>> basic issues as these, all these claims of fastest web browser and >>> stability are no good for blind consumers >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>> mac-access@mac-access.net >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> <http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> <http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/>. >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> <http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >>> <http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access@mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> <http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> <http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/>. >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> <http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: >> <http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access@mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: > <http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html> > or at the public Mail Archive: > <http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/>. > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > <http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml> > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: > <http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: <http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html> or at the public Mail Archive: <http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/>. 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