oh, one more thing, the guy was talking about selling me a copy of office for 
the mac.  is this accessible with voiceover ?  

thanks.


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On 31/01/2012, at 2:17 PM, John Panarese <jpanar...@mac-access.net> wrote:

>    For me, that cable didn't work.  I had thought it might, but, 
> unfortunately, I believe that is for a flat screen monitor.
> 
>    As for Maria's questions;
> 
>> 1. can i use a standard usb keyboard with the mini? or can i use the apple 
>> keyboard i have for my 
>> If i use the apple keyboard how would i pare it? would i need sighted 
>> assistance?
> 
> Answer; I use a USB keyboard with my Mini.  However, you can use a bluetooth 
> keyboard as well.  The setup is accessible.  The only "trick" is to make sure 
> you can type the pass code on the keyboard when you are prompted.
> 
> 2.  can i use a standard monitor with the mac mini? 
> 
> Answer; Yes, this won't be a problem.  You might have to get an adaptor, but 
> I'm not sure.
>> 3. what is the command to turn voiceover on so i can start using the 
>> computer?
>> is there any setup, or is there a way to turn voiceover on when the computer 
>> is booted?
> 
> Answer; Command F5 will toggle VoiceOver on.  When you first get the Mini, 
> you will go through the initial setup.  You will be asked if you want to use 
> VoiceOver and to use command-F5 to turn it on.  Once VoiceOver is on, it will 
> be on each time you reboot or turn on the Mini again.
> 
>> 4.  what software do people use to broadcast on internet radio?
> 
> Answer;  I don't have much experience with this, though I think, Nice Cast, 
> is a program I have heard some folks use for this.
> 
>> 5.  do i need speakers or headphones or are they built in?
> 
> Answer;  The Mini has a very nice speaker as it is.  You certainly can get 
> external speakers, but I use it with the one built in.  I also use my 
> earphones that came with my iPhone when I need to do so.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Take Care
> John Panarese
> jpanar...@mac-access.net
> 
> 
> 
> On Jan 30, 2012, at 8:50 PM, Maria From Australia wrote:
> 
>> HI.  am thinking of purchasing a new mac mini.  I have a few questions 
>> though.  if u would prefer to answer offlist my email address is at the 
>> bottom of this email.
>> ok. here goes.
>> 1. can i use a standard usb keyboard with the mini? or can i use the apple 
>> keyboard i have for my 
>> If i use the apple keyboard how would i pare it? would i need sighted 
>> assistance?
>> 2.  can i use a standard monitor with the mac mini? 
>> 3. what is the command to turn voiceover on so i can start using the 
>> computer?
>> is there any setup, or is there a way to turn voiceover on when the computer 
>> is booted?
>> 4.  what software do people use to broadcast on internet radio?
>> 
>> 5.  do i need speakers or headphones or are they built in?
>> I think that's about it.  thanks.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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>> On 31/01/2012, at 7:00 AM, Steve Holmes <steve.holme...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> I wondered the same thing.  I might actually try that this evening and
>>> see what happens.  That plug reminds me more of an USB connecter
>>> however.  Still anything's worth a try.  I just don't wanna have to
>>> shell out more bucs just fake out the Mini.  I really think Apple
>>> should fix this situation so that a monitor would not be required for
>>> anything except for using the mac without VoiceOver.
>>> 
>>> On 1/30/12, Diane Bomar <diane.ale...@att.net> wrote:
>>>> For those having this problem, have you tried connecting the small monitor
>>>> cable that comes with the Mac Mini? It might be a Thunderbolt cable, I am
>>>> not sure, but, would be interested to know if just attaching the cable 
>>>> would
>>>> work for you. I am not experiencing these problems.
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "matthew Dyer" <ilovecountrymusic...@gmail.com>
>>>> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" <mac-access@mac-access.net>
>>>> Sent: Monday, January 30, 2012 10:46 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: voice over question.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> Oh ok.  I found a monitor for 20 bucks which I am waiting to be shipped.
>>>>> There is a device thatt will trick the mac mioni into thinking there is
>>>>> one, but don't know what is called
>>>>> 
>>>>> Matthew
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Jan 29, 2012, at 7:55 PM, Steve Holmes wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> That's interesting.  I asked several people in the Apple stores this very
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> question and they probably thought it a crazy idea but once they realized
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I was gonna use VO, they didn't think there would be any problem with
>>>>>> that.
>>>>>> Any ideas on how to "trick" the mini into seeing a monitor?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jan 29, 2012, at 4:44 PM, John Panarese wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> This is probably your issue than.  I know Apple support will say you
>>>>>>> can run a Mini without a monitor, but there have been several reports to
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> the contrary, including my own personal experience.  You need to use a
>>>>>>> monitor or trick the Mini  into thinking it has a monitor connected.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Take Care
>>>>>>> John Panarese
>>>>>>> jpanar...@mac-access.net
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Jan 29, 2012, at 7:37 PM, Steve Holmes wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Interesting question.  No, I do not have a monitor connected.  I went
>>>>>>>> the cheap route here and chose to save $300 or so by not buying one.  I
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> wouldn't think that should affect this but who knows.  I think I will
>>>>>>>> update the Apple tech support staff that I don't have a monitor
>>>>>>>> connected.  I would be quite interested in this issue for sure.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Thanks for the possible idea.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Jan 29, 2012, at 3:07 PM, Zachary Kline wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Hi Steve,
>>>>>>>>> This may seem an odd question, but do you have a monitor connected to
>>>>>>>>> your mac mini? I think I recall reading on this list that not having
>>>>>>>>> one can lead to a number of strange preference-saving issues.
>>>>>>>>> Voiceover should indeed be turned on automatically, as it does on my
>>>>>>>>> MBP.
>>>>>>>>> Yours,
>>>>>>>>> Zack.
>>>>>>>>> On Jan 29, 2012, at 3:03 PM, Steve Holmes wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I don't exactly have this issue but I am having another issue with my
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> new mac mini.  I have my login options set to start VO automatically
>>>>>>>>>> at the login prompt and that part works fine.  But after I complete
>>>>>>>>>> login by entering my password, I then have to turn VO back on with
>>>>>>>>>> Command+F5 every time.  I also confirm in system preferences that VO
>>>>>>>>>> is indeed set on.  Isn't VOsupposed to start up automatically after
>>>>>>>>>> logging in? Apple tech support seems to be stumped on this one.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Any ideas?
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 28, 2012, at 10:09 PM, Michael Fridey wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> hi guys is people having same problem as me I am finding my setting
>>>>>>>>>>> in vo to speek greeting wen macbook loads up.
>>>>>>>>>>> It is checked wen I shut down but wen i turn macbook on and it does
>>>>>>>>>>> not talk I go in and find the check box is unchecked.
>>>>>>>>>>> cheers Michael.
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