I'm glad this has been mentioned as its something I didn't know about or had 
forgotten.


On 18/03/2012, at 1:04 PM, Esther wrote:

> Hi All,
> 
> Just wanted to clarify that Sarah's speaking about a discovery that was 
> discussed on list two years ago -- if you press one of the arrow keys along 
> with a key from the top row of numbers on a laptop keyboard, and you have 
> NumPad Commander enabled in VoiceOver Utility, then you can generate the same 
> NumPad Commander sequence you'd get by pressing the corresponding number key 
> on the numeric keypad of a full-size keyboard.  For example, let's say that 
> you have NumPad Commander enabled under the "Commanders" menu of VoiceOver 
> Utility on the "NumPad" tab, and that pressing the "1" key on the numeric 
> keypad with no modifier keys is bound to the command to bring up item chooser 
> menu -- which you can also invoke by pressing VO-I.  On a laptop keyboard if 
> you press the "1" key from the top row of numbers and one of the arrow keys, 
> you can also execute the command to bring up item chooser menu, or whatever 
> VoiceOver command  you customized for that key in NumPad Commander.  This only
  w
> orks to give you the unmodified set of NumPad Commander actions, and you have 
> to be careful which arrow key you choose to press. Sarah's using the right 
> arrow key, because in some instances pressing the down arrow key can move 
> your focus to a different location.
> 
> This esoteric way of getting NumPad Commander customized definitions to work 
> when using keyboards without a separate NumPad works on both Intel Macs and 
> the older PowerPC Macs.  So this is something you can use if you are running 
> Leopard on an old Mac laptop.  If you have Snow Leopard or Lion, you may find 
> it more convenient to use Keyboard Commander to bind a custom VoiceOver 
> action to other keys. And you can add these combinations to your repertory if 
> you want to use them on your current Mac  laptop.  It's not a full answer to 
> Dane's appreciation for having NumPad Commander on the full keyboard, but 
> explains what Sarah meant when she said that actually, she could access 
> NumPad commander functions from her Mac laptop keyboard.
> 
> The old archived list posts from April 2010 have a discussion thread titled 
> "Keyboard Shortcuts from Numpad Commander without a Numpad"
> 
> HTH.  Cheers,
> 
> Esther
> 
> On Mar 15, 2012, at 3:00 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
> 
>> Actually it is. Just hold down the right arrow key and hit the numbers on 
>> the number fow. I do this all the time if I need to do something quickly,.
>> 
>> Take care all.
>> On Mar 15, 2012, at 5:58 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
>> 
>>> Glad you can still get the USB keyboard, the "Num Pad Commander" in VO 
>>> wouldn't be any use without one <smile>.
>>> 
>>> 
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