Ok I get what you're saying, but, it's better than Windows where you have to use Narrator to get a screen reader from the Internet. Now i'm not bashing windows, it's still good for what Vo can't do. But I just think vo is more universally accessible.
On 8/20/12, Dónal Fitzpatrick <dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie> wrote: > Travis, > > I've played with the free app and personally have no intention of paying the > "blind tax" that seems to be on these apps. However I'll also add that I've > begun to chat with the developers (*smile* as a result of a mildly offensive > and rather negative tweet about the app) and they are very nice guys who are > extremely committed to what they are doing. > > Wearing my usability hat for a second, I think what they're trying to do > makes sense. I don't know about you, but I don't hit letters accurately > 100% of the time. So in essence all they are doing is building in error > correction for inaccurate keypresses. That's an over simplification but in > essence that's how I see it. Now from the standpoint of the research, taken > heuristically as it were, that makes sense to me. Allowing the device to > "assist" or "second guess" the user for whom traditional input doesn't quite > work is a good idea. > > Where it falls down in my view is the fact that this input method isn't > available globally. So one cannot, as it were, select the "fleksy keyboard" > as opposed to apple's own variants. As an aside, they tell me that > developers can in fact incorporate their work into their apps and they have > had interest in this. > > What jumps out at me is that a software developer has seen a niche/gap in > the market and filled it. The reason, and again this is pure opinion on my > part, is that voiceover (whether on IOS or the desktop platforms) has > stagnated. There, I've said it and now the apple fanboys/girls will no > doubt create a strong rope made of iPhone cables with which to hang me from > the nearest cellphone mast. However, let's think about it. We all (well > certainly I and a number of my friends did) were delighted with the > emergence of Alex, trackpad use, access to touchscreens etc. However what's > happened since? We still have the same bugs, the gesture/keyboard > interactions haven't been refined and software such as Pages, Numbers, > Keynote and Preview still are not, in my opinion, usable to the extent they > should be. > > So returning to Fleksy and what I think it shows. I think it shows that > Apple don't have the monopoly on ideas. I think it shows the problems > inherent in the design of voiceover on both mobile and desktop platforms in > that developers cannot "plug in" to the screenreader and create extensions. > That is bad, ladies and gentlemen because it means as long as we stick on > Apple platforms, we've got to put up with what they give us and that, for > the past few years hasn't been much. I now expect the usual blind response > of "oh but we should all be grateful to apple because. (blah blah)" and all > of that is perfect true. But how long do we have to remain grateful for? > We're paying our money just like anyone else so should expect improvements > in the user experience. There are seven, yes only seven, new voiceover > features in mountain lion, and many bugs that have been there for years are > still there. So yes I am delighted apple introduced a free screenreader, > but they're happy too as they have got money from me (and other blind users) > as a consequence that they otherwise wouldn't have received. > > I could wax lyrical on some theoretical analysis I've done on all this but > most people would accuse me of being boring so I won't. > > that's my few cents worth on Fleksy, apple and the world according to Garp. > > Dónal > On 20 Aug 2012, at 22:09, Travis Siegel <tsie...@softcon.com> wrote: > >> Ahh, Donald, an excellent summary of the app, and exactly what I needed. >> I couldn't figure out from previous emails what the point was, so thanks >> for that. >> It does sound like it could be a useful app. However, for now, I'll stick >> with apple's method, I like it, and it works for me, and I'm relatively >> quick, so I don't see a need to change everything now. :) >> Yes, I'm a bit stuck in my ways. :) >> Thanks for the explanation, it makes a whole lot of sense now. >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access@mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> <http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> <http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/>. >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> <http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting >> the list website at: >> <http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/> > > Dónal Fitzpatrick > dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie > > > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access@mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at > either the list's own dedicated web archive: > <http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html> > or at the public Mail Archive: > <http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/>. > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > <http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml> > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > <http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/> > -- Ways to Connect with me: facebook.com/evercuriousmasteryodo twitter.com/joshg93 Skype: joshgregory93 FaceTime, iMessage and iChat: joshkar...@gmail.com <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: <http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html> or at the public Mail Archive: <http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/>. 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