Hi Glenn,

On the iPhone using the delete key, you are always deleting the character to 
the left of the insertion point, just as Andrea said.  However, the character 
that VoiceOver announces as you move your cursor, depends on the direction you 
are moving in.  It's always the last character you moved over.  So if you use 
your right arrow key, or have flicked with a rotor setting to move through the 
characters of a word in the order they are spelled (from left to right), the 
last letter announced is always the last letter of the word.  If I moved 
through the letters of your name, "G l e n n", from left to right, and heard 
the final "n", and then pressed the delete key, I would have "Glen" spelled 
with one "n", or "G l e n".

HTH.  Cheers,

Esther

On 19 Jul 2013, at 16:39, Glenn wrote:

> Okay, but on an iPhone, and using the delete key, are you deleting the 
> character to the left, or the right?
> Glenn
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Andrea Breier" <abre...@kc.rr.com>
> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" <mac-access@mac-access.net>
> Sent: Friday, July 19, 2013 6:16 PM
> Subject: Re: The insertion point when working with text
> 
> 
> I have just started using apple devices for the last year and is was
> confusing at first.  Just remember that if you are navigating to the left,
> the cursor is to the left and if you are navigating to the right, the cursor
> is now to the right.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Glenn" <glenner...@cableone.net>
> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" <mac-access@mac-access.net>
> Sent: Friday, July 19, 2013 9:27 AM
> Subject: Re: The insertion point when working with text
> 
> 
>> I've been trying for years now, and on my phone, I haven't gotten used to
>> the deletion stuff.
>> Glenn
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "David Griffith" <d.griff...@btinternet.com>
>> To: "'Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility'" <mac-access@mac-access.net>
>> Sent: Friday, July 19, 2013 9:14 AM
>> Subject: RE: The insertion point when working with text
>> 
>> 
>> I agree that you should try and get used to the  Mac way of doing things.
>> I
>> to found it confusing to begin with but you do get the hang of it
>> eventually. Once you understand that all that happens is that Voiceover
>> speaks the character the cursor passes over, irrespective of the direction
>> it is going in this is fine. The problem is that if you try to make the
>> Mac
>> behave like windows and Jaws is that you get complications when trying to
>> use other keystrokes. In particular the commands to the end of a line
>> behaved unpredictably and you were not always where you thought you were.
>> This does not happen with voiceover and Mac default settings.
>> 
>> David Griffith
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
>> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Anne Robertson
>> Sent: 19 July 2013 14:51
>> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
>> Subject: Re: The insertion point when working with text
>> 
>> Hello Andy,
>> 
>> You can change the way the insertion point works to be more like JAWS in
>> VoiceOver Utility, Verbosity, Text, When moving the cursor: click the
>> button
>> and select Speak text to the right of the cursor.
>> 
>> Personally, I like the standard Mac way of doing things which is that the
>> insertion point is to the right of what you just heard when navigating to
>> the right, and to the left of what you just heard when navigating to the
>> left. This seems logical to me.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Anne
>> 
>> 
>> On 19 Jul 2013, at 14:57, Andy Collins <a...@recreation.plus.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi all -
>>> 
>>> At the moment, the way things are set up is confusing me when I am
>>> trying to edit text in mail or Text Editor. When I try to delete a
>>> character, or correct a spelling manually, I'm fiddling about trying
>>> to get the focus on the right character to delete. All too often, I
>>> find the wrong character has been deleted, because the insertion point
>>> [if that's the correct term for it] is focussed somewhere else in the
>>> word than where I expect it to be. How/where do I look to change this,
>>> so it works in the more familiar way I'm use to from using JAWS? -
>>> 
>>> Andy

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