Well now, to choose dom or groups, is as yet, untrodden terirtory to me. Not sure when I'd choose one over the other, as I don't know what each has to offer -
Andy On 23 Jul 2013, at 15:31, Anne Robertson <a...@anarchie.org.uk> wrote: > Hello Andy, > > Josh is correct that some commands have no shortcut assigned to them but they > can be assigned to any of the commanders. For instance, I always set a > Keyboard commander shortcut to toggle between DOM and Groups mode for Web > browsing. In general, I prefer Groups mode, but for some tasks, DOM is more > effective. > > Cheers, > > Anne > > > On 23 Jul 2013, at 16:25, ANDY COLLINS <a...@recreation.plus.com> wrote: > >> Ah yes - I guess it they show up in the table, then I could do that if I >> particularly felt I needed to do that. Thanks - >> >> Andy >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Josh Gregory" <joshkar...@gmail.com> >> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" <mac-access@mac-access.net> >> Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 3:21 PM >> Subject: Re: Reading to the end of a document >> >> >>> Hi Andy, by default, the tasks that don't have key combinations just don't >>> have them, but I think you can create keyboard short cuts in the keyboard >>> commander thing in the VoiceOver utility. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On Jul 23, 2013, at 10:12 AM, "ANDY COLLINS" <a...@recreation.plus.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Anne - Thanks, that's it, I was forgetting to interact, just letting it >>>> read through, and under those circumstances, VO A does the equivalent of >>>> VO B, when interacting, that is, it read from the top to bottom of the >>>> Document. While I'm here, wonder if you can tell me what is going on when >>>> I have a look at the help menu [VO hh] if for example, I expand the text >>>> table of tasks, I am given a key combination to achieve a task, such as VO >>>> C to read the current character, but just on a couple of occasions, there >>>> is a task, but no key combination, for example, near the end of the list >>>> of tasks in the text table, there is the command to select text, and then >>>> below that, it says "unselect text," but doesn't have a key combination to >>>> do it. I have seen this elsewhere in VO help, where a task is listed, but >>>> no key combination to activate it. I can't believe it's because there >>>> isn't one, otherwise why include the task in the table in the first place? >>>> - >>>> >>>> Andy >>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anne Robertson" <a...@anarchie.org.uk> >>>> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" <mac-access@mac-access.net> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 2:38 PM >>>> Subject: Re: Reading to the end of a document >>>> >>>> >>>>> Hello Andy, >>>>> >>>>> As long as you're interacting with the text, VO-a will read from where >>>>> you left off and VO-b will read from the beginning. >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> >>>>> Anne >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 23 Jul 2013, at 15:24, Andy Collins <a...@recreation.plus.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi all - >>>>>> >>>>>> I know that VO a will read an entire document, but if I'm part way >>>>>> through reading and get interrupted, how do I read from where I was to >>>>>> the end? 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