Thanks Esther - I'll keep it in mind for a bit further down the line. Still getting to grips with other things, and trying to keep hold of what I am learning <smile> -
Andy On 23 Jul 2013, at 21:59, Esther <mori...@mac-access.net> wrote: > Hi Andy, > > Groups mode generally works well when you are visiting web sites that you are > familiar with, because you can often navigate faster through the groups > organization. It's generally not something that feels "natural" to most > Windows switchers, just as most recent Mac switchers find it difficult to get > used to "interacting" as a concept. Groups vs. DOM mode navigation on Web > pages is just an individual preference, and the best way to check out the > differences is simply by visiting a few web pages and changing your setting. > For example, if I visit the Mail Archive pages for this list in Groups mode > because I want to review the threaded topics, maybe because I haven't been > following these in mail because I've been traveling, it's faster for me to > skip over the blocks of replies under a given thread if I have group > navigation on. But there are some places, like the iTunes Store, where I > prefer to use DOM mode. > > I think this is a refinement that you can look into later, and not something > essential to figuring out web navigation for a new Mac user. While I'd guess > that the fraction of Groups mode users is higher among long time Mac users, > it's by no means a given that all long time Mac users prefer to use Groups > mode over DOM mode. > > HTH. Cheers, > > Esther > > On 23 Jul 2013, at 05:44, Andy Collins wrote: > >> Thanks - I will indeed do that - >> >> Andy >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Griffith" >> <d.griff...@btinternet.com> >> To: "'Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility'" <mac-access@mac-access.net> >> Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 4:18 PM >> Subject: RE: Reading to the end of a document >> >> >>> You could look at the voiceover manual on browsing the web to see if that >>> helps >>> >>> http://www.apple.com/voiceover/info/guide/_1134.htmlo >>> >>> I have not personally used Group mode but I assume it works by grouping >>> similar elements of a web page together rather than encountering them in the >>> normal linear method of reading a web page that most will be familiar with. >>> So presumably tables and list will be grouped together for example I guess. >>> Someone will correct me if I am wrong. >>> >>> >>> David Griffith >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net >>> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Andy Collins >>> Sent: 23 July 2013 16:03 >>> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility >>> Subject: Re: Reading to the end of a document >>> >>> Well now, to choose dom or groups, is as yet, untrodden terirtory to me. Not >>> sure when I'd choose one over the other, as I don't know what each has to >>> offer - >>> >>> Andy >>> On 23 Jul 2013, at 15:31, Anne Robertson <a...@anarchie.org.uk> wrote: >>> >>>> Hello Andy, >>>> >>>> Josh is correct that some commands have no shortcut assigned to them but >>> they can be assigned to any of the commanders. For instance, I always set a >>> Keyboard commander shortcut to toggle between DOM and Groups mode for Web >>> browsing. 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