You could look at the voiceover manual on browsing the web to see if that
helps
http://www.apple.com/voiceover/info/guide/_1134.htmlo
I have not personally used Group mode but I assume it works by grouping
similar elements of a web page together rather than encountering them in
the
normal linear method of reading a web page that most will be familiar
with.
So presumably tables and list will be grouped together for example I
guess.
Someone will correct me if I am wrong.
David Griffith
-----Original Message-----
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Andy Collins
Sent: 23 July 2013 16:03
To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: Reading to the end of a document
Well now, to choose dom or groups, is as yet, untrodden terirtory to me.
Not
sure when I'd choose one over the other, as I don't know what each has to
offer -
Andy
On 23 Jul 2013, at 15:31, Anne Robertson <a...@anarchie.org.uk> wrote:
Hello Andy,
Josh is correct that some commands have no shortcut assigned to them but
they can be assigned to any of the commanders. For instance, I always set
a
Keyboard commander shortcut to toggle between DOM and Groups mode for Web
browsing. In general, I prefer Groups mode, but for some tasks, DOM is
more
effective.
Cheers,
Anne
On 23 Jul 2013, at 16:25, ANDY COLLINS <a...@recreation.plus.com> wrote:
Ah yes - I guess it they show up in the table, then I could do that
if I particularly felt I needed to do that. Thanks -
Andy
----- Original Message ----- From: "Josh Gregory"
<joshkar...@gmail.com>
To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" <mac-access@mac-access.net>
Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 3:21 PM
Subject: Re: Reading to the end of a document
Hi Andy, by default, the tasks that don't have key combinations just
don't have them, but I think you can create keyboard short cuts in the
keyboard commander thing in the VoiceOver utility.
Sent from my iPhone
On Jul 23, 2013, at 10:12 AM, "ANDY COLLINS" <a...@recreation.plus.com>
wrote:
Hi Anne - Thanks, that's it, I was forgetting to interact, just
letting it read through, and under those circumstances, VO A does
the equivalent of VO B, when interacting, that is, it read from the
top to bottom of the Document. While I'm here, wonder if you can
tell me what is going on when I have a look at the help menu [VO
hh] if for example, I expand the text table of tasks, I am given a
key combination to achieve a task, such as VO C to read the current
character, but just on a couple of occasions, there is a task, but
no key combination, for example, near the end of the list of tasks
in the text table, there is the command to select text, and then
below that, it says "unselect text," but doesn't have a key
combination to do it. I have seen this elsewhere in VO help, where
a task is listed, but no key combination to activate it. I can't
believe it's because there isn't one, otherwise why include the
task in the table in the first place? -
Andy
----- Original Message ----- From: "Anne Robertson"
<a...@anarchie.org.uk>
To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" <mac-access@mac-access.net>
Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 2:38 PM
Subject: Re: Reading to the end of a document
Hello Andy,
As long as you're interacting with the text, VO-a will read from
where
you left off and VO-b will read from the beginning.
Cheers,
Anne
On 23 Jul 2013, at 15:24, Andy Collins <a...@recreation.plus.com>
wrote:
Hi all -
I know that VO a will read an entire document, but if I'm part
way through reading and get interrupted, how do I read from where
I was to the end? Can't find the answer from the VO hh text help
-
Andy
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