I use screen flow all th time. Granted I can’t yet afford and am aaup for the app store version, but it works and works well even though my vids have a water mark on them. lol! The audio is still heard and heard well.
it’s a nice piece of kit to have. Take care and be blessed. On Nov 29, 2013, at 2:18 PM, Dónal Fitzpatrick <dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie> wrote: > Hi Esther, > > Thanks for that link, I don’t think I was on the list that far back :) Nope > don’t touch it realy I certainly didn’t much care for the interface. if they > ever give me a breathing space at work I’ll do an in-depth comparison… who > knows I might even do a screencast of it! *grin* > > > Cheers, > > Dónal > On 29 Nov 2013, at 22:11, Esther <mori...@mac-access.net> wrote: > >> HI Dónal, >> >> Well, back in Spring 2008 Greg Kearney posted a demo of how to use Drag and >> Drop with VoiceOver, and he made the video with Screenflow. This was his >> first effort, and he managed to only have the audio come out in one track, >> but the whole thing worked. Here's the message with his link, that still >> works, courtesy of the Mail Archive search feature: >> <begin quote> >> OK it's not the best movie in the world and I need to think this out and >> redo the whole thing. But here is a movie which shows dragging and dropping >> onto Safari from the Finder. >> >> http://www.cucat.org/projects/voiceover/draganddrop.mov >> >> Greg Kearney >> <end quote> >> >> So the Screenflow app has definitely worked with VoiceOver! At least I now >> know that I don't have to check out Camtasia. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Esther >> >> On Nov 29, 2013, at 11:50 AM, Dónal Fitzpatrick wrote: >> >>> Hi Esther, >>> >>> I’ve actually tried Camtasia and haven’t had much success with it. I have >>> also been in contact with their dev team and, to be honest the exchange was >>> less than fruitful. In essence they said: Yes we know it’s not fully >>> accessible, and if we get around to it we’ll sort it. I’ve struggled >>> through, and put together some less than adequate screencasts. This is why >>> that one jumped out at me as for my sins, I’ve never even heard of it. >>> >>> I think I’ll give it a whirl. Many thanks for this one I do appreciate it >>> as I have to do a lot of this kind of work over the next few weeks so it’s >>> rather serendipitous. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Dónal >>> On 29 Nov 2013, at 21:45, Esther wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Dónal, >>>> >>>> Sorry, but I don't have much current information on Camtasia. Here are a >>>> few comments though. For very basic video screen captures, you can just >>>> use QuickTime. This was discussed on list a week or so ago for audio >>>> recording options, and also video recording. A recent comparison review >>>> from this summer of Camtasia vs. Screenflow basically said both were good >>>> (they are both multi-track editors), so if you have one you probably don't >>>> need to get the other. However, the differences are that Camtasia gives >>>> more options for animations and annotations, and generally things that are >>>> graphics oriented (that I don't think VoiceOver users will make particular >>>> use of), while Screenflow offers more in the way of audio and video >>>> filtering (which are things VoiceOver users might take advantage of). The >>>> other comments are that Screenflow was originally designed on the Mac, >>>> while Camtasia was ported from Windows. The Mac version doesn't have as >>>> many features as their Windows version, but the pricing with Screenflow is >>>> competitive when neither is on sale. Someone at the Mac Rumors stated >>>> that Screenflow was more stable on the Mac than Camtasia, but I don't know >>>> whether that comment applies to Mavericks. >>>> >>>> My impression is, if you have Camtasia, and if it works well with >>>> VoiceOver, which I have no information about, you might stick with it. If >>>> you are buying a new app for video tutorials, I'd be inclined to look at >>>> Screenflow first, because of the known history of accessibility on the Mac >>>> with VoiceOver, and because the additional strengths seem more oriented to >>>> what a VoiceOver user might take advantage of. >>>> >>>> Both these apps have trial download versions, so you could check for >>>> yourself. The Mac Update site probably has the link for Camtasia, and I >>>> gave the Screenflow download site in my first post. >>>> >>>> HTH. Cheers, >>>> >>>> Esther >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Nov 29, 2013, at 9:13 AM, Dónal Fitzpatrick wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Esther, >>>>> >>>>> the one that jumps out at me there is the Screenflow application. Do you >>>>> by any chance know how it compares to Camtasia? We can get that one for >>>>> free at work but I’d be more than happy to pay the 69 dollars if I >>>>> thought there were advantages. Given I do a lot of UI and Web Design >>>>> teaching something like this would be fantastic. >>>>> >>>>> Dónal >>>>> On 29 Nov 2013, at 13:59, Esther wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi All, >>>>>> >>>>>> In connection with Black Friday, the first day after U.S. Thanksgiving, >>>>>> when there are sales to start off the Christmas shopping season, a >>>>>> number of interesting sales have shown up in the Mac App Store for >>>>>> applications or subjects that have been recently discussed. Some of >>>>>> these will be for today only, some for the Friday and Saturday, and some >>>>>> will extend through Monday. >>>>>> >>>>>> Here are a few of the items I've noted: >>>>>> • ABBYY Fine Reader Express $49.99 (50% off regular price, this weekend >>>>>> only) >>>>>> http://itunes.apple.com/app/abbyy-finereader-express/id412310371?mt=12 >>>>>> • Checkbook Pro $11.99 (normally $24.99, on sale -- last year it was for >>>>>> Friday only) >>>>>> http://itunes.apple.com/app/checkbook-pro/id412490330?mt=12 >>>>>> • Audiobook Builder $1.99 (normally $5.99) >>>>>> http://itunes.apple.com/app/audiobook-builder/id406226796?mt=12 >>>>>> >>>>>> ABBYY Fine Reader Express for OCR has a15-day free trial download at: >>>>>> http://www.abbyy.com/finereader_for_mac/trial/# >>>>>> You can find the Splasm Software trial downloads for Checkbook Pro at: >>>>>> http://www.splasm.com/checkbookpro/downloads.html >>>>>> and for Audiobook Builder at: >>>>>> http://www.splasm.com/audiobookbuilder/downloads.html >>>>>> >>>>>> Looks like there is no 1Password Mac sale this year. >>>>>> >>>>>> Telestream sent out an email with a 30% discount code of >>>>>> "BlackCyber2013" (excluding the quotation marks) for the purchase of >>>>>> their products between November 27 - December 2, 2013. They make a >>>>>> product called Flip4Mac that lets you play Windows Media formats in >>>>>> QuickTime (in free and paid versions that let you encode more formats), >>>>>> but they also make a product called Screenflow that allows you to screen >>>>>> capture in video format from your Mac to do demos and presentations of >>>>>> app usage. I know some VoiceOver users use this software (lists for >>>>>> $99, would be $69.30 with the discount). Here's the Screenflow web site, >>>>>> which also has their free trial download link: >>>>>> http://www.telestream.net/screenflow/ >>>>>> >>>>>> Southern Stars also sent me links to the free versions of their >>>>>> SkySafari planetarium apps for both the Mac and for iOS, good from this >>>>>> Friday through Sunday (though the links actually started working >>>>>> yesterday): >>>>>> • SkySafari 1.8 for Mac OS X (free, regularly $4.99) >>>>>> https://itunes.apple.com/app/skysafari/id451895081?mt=12 >>>>>> I've generally used the iOS app, which is accessible for all the >>>>>> information parts, though I have used an older version of the Mac app, >>>>>> Here's the iOS app link: >>>>>> • SkySafari 3.8.5 for iOS (free, regularly $2.99) >>>>>> https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/skysafari-3/id437108143?mt=8 >>>>>> >>>>>> They've also put their SkySafari Plus and Pro versions for Mac and iOS >>>>>> (and Android) on sale for 25%. These are versions with larger object >>>>>> databases on comets, distant galaxies and stars, etc. >>>>>> >>>>>> HTH. Cheers, >>>>>> >>>>>> Esther >>>>> >>> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> mac-access@mac-access.net >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at >> either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> <http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> <http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/>. >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> <http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml> >> >> As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that >> the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and >> worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security >> strategy. 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