Hi Sarah, Dónal, and Others, Remember to check vendor web sites for educational discounts (and trial downloads). Telestream, the maker of ScreenFlow, offers a 10% educational discount to students and instructors on any of their products when purchased from their web site. This can't be used in combination with the current Black Friday coupon code, which gives a larger (30%) discount.
Vendors of popular software who give educational discounts on their products include Hairersoft (for Amadeus Pro), Nisus Writer, and others. Also, some of these applications occasionally show up as software bundle deals from the MacUpdate Promo and other such sites a few times a year. ScreenFlow was actually part of a 10 app MacUpdate Bundle for $49.95 back in early October. (It was about the only interesting app in that bundle) I think it's worth it to negotiate the one-time CAPTCHA involved in creating an mupromo account for those few times that you'll want to purchase one of their highly discounted promotions on short order. I notice that right now they have a Paragon mini-bundle running for the next 2 and a half days. Paragon mini-bundle of 4 apps for $29.99, reduced from $100 https://deals.macupdate.com/deal/15068#comments "Use NTFS for Mac and HFS+ for Windows to transfer files back and forth with no compatibility issues, or use ExtFS to create error-free transferability between your Mac and a Linux-formatted drive." I don't know how many of those apps work well or accessibly, especially since one of them claims to let you resize bootcamp partitions, a second lets you read/write Ext 2, 3, and 4 files between Linux and the Mac, and a third lets you read Mac HFS files from Windows. The program I've heard that other VoiceOver users make successful use of is their NTFS for Mac program, that is also part of the bundle, and normally lists for $19.95. There's a link in the comments on that discussion page that lets you purchase the NTFS for Mac program as a download from the Paragon Web site for $9.95 (or half price): http://www.paragon-software.com/newsletter/2013/20131107_NTFS4Mac11_CamptuneX10.4_SPO_50.html Here's the shortened link, if that one wraps: http://bit.ly/18uz1Em Note that this discount expires today (November 30, 2013). But as far as I can tell, this doesn't require getting a MacUpdate account. The mupromo deal of 4 apps runs for a few more days. HTH. Cheers, Estger On Nov 29, 2013, at 1:16 PM, Sarah k Alawami wrote: I use screen flow all th time. Granted I can’t yet afford and am aaup for the app store version, but it works and works well even though my vids have a water mark on them. lol! The audio is still heard and heard well. > > it’s a nice piece of kit to have. > > Take care and be blessed. > On Nov 29, 2013, at 2:18 PM, Dónal Fitzpatrick wrote: > >> Hi Esther, >> >> Thanks for that link, I don’t think I was on the list that far back :) Nope >> don’t touch it realy I certainly didn’t much care for the interface. if >> they ever give me a breathing space at work I’ll do an in-depth comparison… >> who knows I might even do a screencast of it! *grin* >> >> >> Cheers, >> >> Dónal >> On 29 Nov 2013, at 22:11, Esther wrote: >> >>> HI Dónal, >>> >>> Well, back in Spring 2008 Greg Kearney posted a demo of how to use Drag and >>> Drop with VoiceOver, and he made the video with Screenflow. This was his >>> first effort, and he managed to only have the audio come out in one track, >>> but the whole thing worked. Here's the message with his link, that still >>> works, courtesy of the Mail Archive search feature: >>> <begin quote> >>> OK it's not the best movie in the world and I need to think this out and >>> redo the whole thing. But here is a movie which shows dragging and >>> dropping onto Safari from the Finder. >>> >>> http://www.cucat.org/projects/voiceover/draganddrop.mov >>> >>> Greg Kearney >>> <end quote> >>> >>> So the Screenflow app has definitely worked with VoiceOver! At least I now >>> know that I don't have to check out Camtasia. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Esther >>> >>> On Nov 29, 2013, at 11:50 AM, Dónal Fitzpatrick wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Esther, >>>> >>>> I’ve actually tried Camtasia and haven’t had much success with it. I have >>>> also been in contact with their dev team and, to be honest the exchange >>>> was less than fruitful. In essence they said: Yes we know it’s not fully >>>> accessible, and if we get around to it we’ll sort it. I’ve struggled >>>> through, and put together some less than adequate screencasts. This is >>>> why that one jumped out at me as for my sins, I’ve never even heard of it. >>>> >>>> I think I’ll give it a whirl. Many thanks for this one I do appreciate it >>>> as I have to do a lot of this kind of work over the next few weeks so it’s >>>> rather serendipitous. >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> >>>> Dónal >>>> On 29 Nov 2013, at 21:45, Esther wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Dónal, >>>>> >>>>> Sorry, but I don't have much current information on Camtasia. Here are a >>>>> few comments though. For very basic video screen captures, you can just >>>>> use QuickTime. This was discussed on list a week or so ago for audio >>>>> recording options, and also video recording. A recent comparison review >>>>> from this summer of Camtasia vs. Screenflow basically said both were good >>>>> (they are both multi-track editors), so if you have one you probably >>>>> don't need to get the other. However, the differences are that Camtasia >>>>> gives more options for animations and annotations, and generally things >>>>> that are graphics oriented (that I don't think VoiceOver users will make >>>>> particular use of), while Screenflow offers more in the way of audio and >>>>> video filtering (which are things VoiceOver users might take advantage >>>>> of). The other comments are that Screenflow was originally designed on >>>>> the Mac, while Camtasia was ported from Windows. The Mac version doesn't >>>>> have as many features as their Windows version, but the pricing with >>>>> Screenflow is competitive when neither is on sale. Someone at the Mac >>>>> Rumors stated that Screenflow was more stable on the Mac than Camtasia, >>>>> but I don't know whether that comment applies to Mavericks. >>>>> >>>>> My impression is, if you have Camtasia, and if it works well with >>>>> VoiceOver, which I have no information about, you might stick with it. >>>>> If you are buying a new app for video tutorials, I'd be inclined to look >>>>> at Screenflow first, because of the known history of accessibility on the >>>>> Mac with VoiceOver, and because the additional strengths seem more >>>>> oriented to what a VoiceOver user might take advantage of. >>>>> >>>>> Both these apps have trial download versions, so you could check for >>>>> yourself. The Mac Update site probably has the link for Camtasia, and I >>>>> gave the Screenflow download site in my first post. >>>>> >>>>> HTH. Cheers, >>>>> >>>>> Esther >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Nov 29, 2013, at 9:13 AM, Dónal Fitzpatrick wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi Esther, >>>>>> >>>>>> the one that jumps out at me there is the Screenflow application. Do >>>>>> you by any chance know how it compares to Camtasia? We can get that one >>>>>> for free at work but I’d be more than happy to pay the 69 dollars if I >>>>>> thought there were advantages. Given I do a lot of UI and Web Design >>>>>> teaching something like this would be fantastic. >>>>>> >>>>>> Dónal >>>>>> On 29 Nov 2013, at 13:59, Esther wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi All, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> In connection with Black Friday, the first day after U.S. Thanksgiving, >>>>>>> when there are sales to start off the Christmas shopping season, a >>>>>>> number of interesting sales have shown up in the Mac App Store for >>>>>>> applications or subjects that have been recently discussed. Some of >>>>>>> these will be for today only, some for the Friday and Saturday, and >>>>>>> some will extend through Monday. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> <snip> >>>>>>> Telestream sent out an email with a 30% discount code of >>>>>>> "BlackCyber2013" (excluding the quotation marks) for the purchase of >>>>>>> their products between November 27 - December 2, 2013. They make a >>>>>>> product called Flip4Mac that lets you play Windows Media formats in >>>>>>> QuickTime (in free and paid versions that let you encode more formats), >>>>>>> but they also make a product called Screenflow that allows you to >>>>>>> screen capture in video format from your Mac to do demos and >>>>>>> presentations of app usage. I know some VoiceOver users use this >>>>>>> software (lists for $99, would be $69.30 with the discount). Here's the >>>>>>> Screenflow web site, which also has their free trial download link: >>>>>>> http://www.telestream.net/screenflow/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> <snip> >>>>>>> HTH. 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