Hi Ray, just some words about the iOS simulator. It is quite accessible. One can move around on the simulated screen with VoiceOver, observing its content. You can also press buttons, input text and such things. However, it seems that there is not always everything visible for VoiceOver on the screen and the feedback to user actions sometimes lacks quite a bit. So, it sometimes is a real pain to use the iOS simulator and I prefer to test on physical devices.
Greetings Jan --- MouseKick - Die Mäuse kommen! Download im App Store: http://AppStore.com./MouseKick --- Dr. Jan Blüher visorApps - Entwicklung barrierefreier Apps für iPad & iPhone Bayreuther Str. 2 D-01187 Dresden Deutschland Tel.: +49 (0) 351 16053907 Mobil: +49 (0) 176 34926242 E-Mail: jan.blue...@visorapps.com web: http://visorApps.com Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/#visorApps Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/VisorApps Umsatzsteuernummer: DE281706766 Am 09.01.2014 um 20:12 schrieb Ray Campbell <ray1...@wowway.com>: > Hi: > > There's also a textbook, "Beginning IOS Development" available on Kindle > through the Kindle app that is pretty good. I just completed a mobile app > development class and as my time allows, I want to get more into the Apple > Development and see if I can develop a few things. > > Laurel, the thing I found totally unusable was the iPhone Simulator on > XCode. When you test your apps on XCode, a simulator comes up where a > developer can test out the app functionality and see if things work. I > couldn't use that with VoiceOver. So, I had to get myself over the fear of > putting test software on my iPhone to test things. > > Thanks, > > > Ray Campbell > ray1...@wowway.com > Skype Name: ray650315 > > Check out my blog at farmers-boy.livejournal.com > Follow me on Twitter: twitter.com/packerbackerray > Follow me on FaceBook: www.facebook.com/packerbackerray > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net > [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Donal Fitzpatrick > Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2014 12:53 PM > To: OS X & iOS Accessibility > Subject: Re: Apple's Xcode tutorial > > Hi Laurel and Jeff, > > Sorry Laurel, I must have missed your original post over the Christmas > period. I more or less tuned out of all email for about two weeks. > > I tried that tutorial a while back and got lost. It’s probably my > background and training, but I always seem to have more luck following books > rather than tutorials. If you’re a bookshare member, they have plenty of > XCode stuff. Indeed, all oreilly books are there by default. > > Here’s an offer for you: if you want to take a look on sites like: > > www.oreilly.com > www.informit.com > www.apress.com > www.bookshare.org > > you might find books you find interesting. The first thing I’d do is start > by learning the Objective C language. All cocoa apps are built on this, and > a knowledge will help you. Anyway back to my offer: If you find books that > you think might be of use, either post here or contact me offlist and I’ll > happily take a look for you and tell you what I think. > > I’ve not done app development, but I’ve written utilities for mac. I’m a > university academic who teaches programming (among other things) so I’ve > needed to know the basics. App/application development is my study gig for > the next few months as I suspect I may get a course in mobile development to > teach next year. > > Definitely look at MV-Dev. It’s a nice community and nobody gets flamed for > asking anything. > > Hope these ramblings help, > > Dónal > On 9 Jan 2014, at 18:37, Laurel and Stockard <laurel.stock...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Thanks, I applied to join the group. I appreciate this. I know there's > gotta be a work around, just not sure what it is yet. >> Laurel >> On Jan 8, 2014, at 7:43 PM, Geoff Waaler <geoff.waa...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Hi Laurel and others, >>> >>> In my experience, the silence was deafening when posting such questions > here. Once I received a private reply suggesting that I join the MV-DEV > group. Until recently, that sadly was a dead list, and I assumed that > StoryBoards and InterfaceBuilder were pretty much unusable with VO. > Recently, the MV-DEV list has come back to life, and apparently there are > blind developers who are successfully exploiting these xCode features. I > have a lot to learn before I get out of lurking mode over there, but the one > time I tried the tutorial I was totally lost and became discouraged before > discovering a work-around. >>> >>> Anyway, the link for the MV-DEV list is: >>> >>> http://groups.google.com/group/mv-dev >>> >>> From recent activity, I would think you'll have much better luck if you > repost over there, and I will definitely follow the thread!! >>> >>> Best regards. >>> Geoff >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Laurel and Stockard" > <laurel.stock...@gmail.com> >>> To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" <mac-access@mac-access.net> >>> Sent: Monday, January 06, 2014 8:53 PM >>> Subject: Apple's Xcode tutorial >>> >>> >>>> Hi guys, so, I found a tutorial on starting out with Xcode by Apple. It > starts by having you create a simple to do list app. I've made it as far as > the "create storyboard" heading section, but now I'm stuck. Could somebody > who is good at Xcode/with voiceover take a look at this and help me get > unstuck? So far I've been able to make everything work well with voiceover. > Here is the link > https://developer.apple.com/library/ios/referencelibrary/GettingStarted/Road > MapiOS/FirstTutorial.html#//apple_ref/doc/uid/TP40011343-CH3-SW1 >>>> >>>> So, if somebody could give me some voiceover tutorials for creating > storyboards and working with that and the next sections of the tutorial, I'd > appreciate it. 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