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> From: Zachary Kline <zkl...@speedpost.net> > Subject: Re: Mail forwarding, Can we avoid the unneeded info? > Date: May 16, 2014 5:17:56 PM EDT > To: OS X & iOS Accessibility <mac-access@mac-access.net> > Reply-To: OS X & iOS Accessibility <mac-access@mac-access.net> > Return-Path: <mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net> > Delivered-To: e...@mail.tft-bbs.co.uk > Delivered-To: mac-acc...@mail.tft-bbs.co.uk > Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.tft-bbs.co.uk > (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79BF220A97EB; Fri, 16 May 2014 22:18:16 +0100 (BST) > Received: from mail.tft-bbs.co.uk ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost > (mail.tft-bbs.co.uk [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id > JvafPgi542wp; Fri, 16 May 2014 22:18:13 +0100 (BST) > Received: from mail.tft-bbs.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by > mail.tft-bbs.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA9BD20A97D1; Fri, 16 May 2014 > 22:18:12 +0100 (BST) > Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.tft-bbs.co.uk > (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96B9720A97AC for <mac-acc...@mail.tft-bbs.co.uk>; > Fri, 16 May 2014 22:18:09 +0100 (BST) > Received: from mail.tft-bbs.co.uk ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost > (mail.tft-bbs.co.uk [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id > maLaLSrYyu9X for <mac-acc...@mail.tft-bbs.co.uk>; Fri, 16 May 2014 22:18:04 > +0100 (BST) > Received: from out2-smtp.messagingengine.com (out2-smtp.messagingengine.com > [66.111.4.26]) by mail.tft-bbs.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 35B6A20A97A0 > for <mac-access@mac-access.net>; Fri, 16 May 2014 22:18:03 +0100 (BST) > Received: from compute1.internal (compute1.nyi.mail.srv.osa [10.202.2.41]) by > gateway1.nyi.mail.srv.osa (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC10220E6F for > <mac-access@mac-access.net>; Fri, 16 May 2014 17:17:58 -0400 (EDT) > Received: from frontend1 ([10.202.2.160]) by compute1.internal (MEProxy); > Fri, 16 May 2014 17:17:58 -0400 > Received: from 10-196-36-78.wireless.oregonstate.edu (unknown [128.193.8.40]) > by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 4B042C007B0 for > <mac-access@mac-access.net>; Fri, 16 May 2014 17:17:58 -0400 (EDT) > X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mail.tft-bbs.co.uk > X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mail.tft-bbs.co.uk > X-Original-To: mac-acc...@mail.tft-bbs.co.uk > Dkim-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=speedpost.net; h= > content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date > :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; s=mesmtp; > bh=lWckgYxD2Q6Owxzbt36raB9BwLY=; b=XVqbSSt6MQRRNYGKBQIWOB5nbT20 > SXZDXFNYQS3NdXEM1dltuWiU/RJLhGqadjrFUUvqt01smQrL1q0Th/s3UMEWMuJk > HXSip/mSfpnDKNqZu6gAEJdfJv1SUeHf98Vx85Lnqt0ee1fkgupzFhSqOnlWMr3w > 6cB9zQNtRsuyV3M= > Dkim-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; > h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from > :in-reply-to:date:content-transfer-encoding:message-id :references:to; > s=smtpout; bh=lWckgYxD2Q6Owxzbt36raB9BwLY=; b=NI > y4Bi4Iu6iU2vxP3Z9gwNjrIcqVZ/ntp0ns3wftiL5lwX7DbkhYGloTV6Gagow70R > qSj0iibb52YOe3sAszVxyY7OCNHVOJ6u0pPIpL/0G0sZntQdrfQNCK+sr2Ad1mjC > 4cGZ+ueGfiqwAulXfBFKuPM6Rhxtq2LDGfVnY51JQ= > X-Sasl-Enc: Z1MTcNKEvH5gdAh2rbEC9sk7SHuVwJc1T0Xlxz/oqMg1 1400275078 > Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.2\)) > In-Reply-To: <a26cefcf-29f5-42aa-963c-aa68dd2a5...@mac-access.net> > Message-Id: <81fa93e9-3dad-4e13-ac7c-e288cfe0e...@speedpost.net> > References: <6b4cc636-fb22-4171-878f-eb633bbb1...@mac-access.net> > <ec56443d-bbad-4c4c-9329-649d5560e...@speedpost.net> > <a26cefcf-29f5-42aa-963c-aa68dd2a5...@mac-access.net> > X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.2) > X-Beenthere: mac-access@mac-access.net > X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 > Precedence: list > List-Id: OS X & iOS Accessibility <mac-access.mac-access.net> > List-Unsubscribe: <http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/options/mac-access>, > <mailto:mac-access-requ...@mac-access.net?subject=unsubscribe> > List-Archive: <http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access> > List-Post: <mailto:mac-access@mac-access.net> > List-Help: <mailto:mac-access-requ...@mac-access.net?subject=help> > List-Subscribe: <http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access>, > <mailto:mac-access-requ...@mac-access.net?subject=subscribe> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > Errors-To: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net > Sender: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net > Hi Zach, above is all the chatter that appears when I forward a message. I'd > love to get rid of this as it makes reading forwarded mail very difficult for > me and for my recipients. I'm amazed that this is the default behavior for > Apple Mail. Eric Caron On May 16, 2014, at 5:17 PM, Zachary Kline <zkl...@speedpost.net> wrote: > Eric, > Can you clarify about which headers you’re seeing? Is it message ID, return > path, and so forth? > You need to forward a new message for the command I gave you to work. > Best, > Zack. > On May 16, 2014, at 2:13 PM, Eric Caron <eric_ca...@mac-access.net> wrote: > >> Hi Zach, >> >> I tried command, shift, h, and there was no change. I do hear VO say >> Default Headers. >> >> Any tips on how I can adjust the default headers or another way to get rid >> of all the forwarding prefix chatter. >> >> Eric Caron >> On May 16, 2014, at 4:34 PM, Zachary Kline <zkl...@speedpost.net> wrote: >> >>> Eric, >>> The problem is that you have told Mail to show all headers by default. If >>> you hit cmd-shift-h, you will switch to just seeing the basic ones. >>> Best, >>> Zack. >>> On May 16, 2014, at 1:29 PM, Eric Caron <eric_ca...@mac-access.net> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi listers, >>>> >>>> When I forward a message in mail it always has a long series of >>>> information about the message that I must get through before I can >>>> actually read the message. Is there any setting or other way to keep mail >>>> from putting all this chatter at the top of a forwarded message? >>>> >>>> I'm using Mountain Lion. >>>> >>>> Eric Caron >>>> >>>> >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>> >>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>> mac-access@mac-access.net >>>> >>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >>>> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>>> <http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html> >>>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>>> <http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/>. >>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>> <http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml> >>>> >>>> As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure >>>> that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and >>>> worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security >>>> strategy. 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We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something >> unpredictable happen. >> >> Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by >> visiting the list website at: >> <http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/> >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access@mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at > either the list's own dedicated web archive: > <http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html> > or at the public Mail Archive: > <http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/>. > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > <http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml> > > As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that > the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and > worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security > strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something > unpredictable happen. > > Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by > visiting the list website at: > <http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/> > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: <http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html> or at the public Mail Archive: <http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/>. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: <http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml> As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. 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