Dear David, I have now resolved my problem regarding my Open University tutorial recording. To access it without Voice Over, I landed on the Accept button using VO and then lockedown the mouse, hope that is the correct term. Then turned off VO once the mouse was locked in position. Finally and I am not sure why but I did the lockdown keyboard commands again, spacebar+command+VO+tab and immediately the tutorial started playing. I was then able to turn on VO again and all was well. Thank you for all the suggestions. Have downloaded the Chrome but not the add-on yet. Did not need to use it but no harm in having it there as an additional browser.

Eleanor
----- Original Message ----- From: "David Griffith" <d.griff...@btinternet.com>
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Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 11:24 AM
Subject: RE: Accessing Oopen University Online TutorialRecording withMac Problem


I very much doubt whether an Apple Genius will be able to match the quality
of advice offered by experienced people like Esther on this list.
You could  however ask them to refer it  to the Apple Accessibility Team.

I am a bit confused by the Open University  comment.
The only way it can make sense if they are talking about using the Google
Chrome browser with its inbuilt Chrome Vox  screenreader which can be used
instead of Voiceover on the Mac. I suppose this is an option to consider.
This is a little bit of a learning curve.
I was in any case going to suggest you try Google Chrome with Voiceover on
first to see if that replicates the problem.
If the problem persists with Voiceover on Chrome you could also Then install the Chrome Vox speech extension and turn voiceover off to see if that makes
the site accessible. I think Sarah is the source of advice on using chrome
and Chrome Vox on this list. Chrome Vox only works within Google Chrome and
is not a general screen reader.
Apart from that in terms of general screen readers the Open University are
completely incorrect.
There are no current alternative Screenreaders to Voiceover on Mac OS.

There are older ovsolete predecessors and alternative Speech engines  for
Terminal but to all practical purposes Voiceover is the only general screen
reading option for the Mac.

-----Original Message-----
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Eleanor Martha Burke
Sent: 29 June 2014 11:00
To: OS X & iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: Accessing Oopen University Online Tutorial Recording withMac
Problem

Hi, the Open University advise I should make an appointment with an Apple
Genius, what do you think to that suggestion?  They also say that there is
software with speech that will work on the Mac other than Apple's Voice
Over. Is this correct?
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Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 9:41 AM
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Can you do a 2 stage process.

Locate accept button.
Then route mouse to accept.
Voiceover off.
Click Track pad
Turn on Voiceover
Locate play
Route mouse to the play button.
Turn voiceover off again.
Click Trackpad.

Personally I would do all this in a Fusion  window for an easy life.

David Griffith
-----Original Message-----
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of eleanor martha
burke
Sent: 28 June 2014 23:34
To: OS X & iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: Accessing Oopen University Online Tutorial Recording with Mac
Problem

not quite David I need to hit the accept button and then the screen will
change and I then need to hit a play button

Eleanor Martha Burke

On 28 Jun 2014, at 23:20, "David Griffith" <d.griff...@btinternet.com>
wrote:

Yes but with Sarah's suggestion Voiceover cannot crash because the whole
point is that she suggests you turn it off.
Her suggestion is that you use Voiceover to route the mouse to the
relevant
button.
then once the mouse is routed to the button turn Voiceover off.
Then physically click the  Trackpad which should logically start the
Video
playing.
Once the Video is finished you can press command W to close the Window
and
then you should be able to restart Voiceover without the problem of busy
messages.

Not perfect and it sounds like you should refer this to
accessibil...@apple.com to look at this.

I think they do sort out some problems. After contacting them about a
problem on using Verified by Visa payments I find I can now do this so it
is
possible that they responded to my query.

David Griffith


-----Original Message-----
From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
[mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of eleanor martha
burke
Sent: 28 June 2014 20:13
To: OS X & iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: Accessing Oopen University Online Tutorial Recording with
Mac
Problem

not really because when I click on play with VO on it then crashes

Eleanor Martha Burke

On 28 Jun 2014, at 19:36, Sarah k Alawami <marri...@gmail.com> wrote:

Can you rouge the curser to the play button shut off vo and cick the
mouse? Tha'ts all I can give for now.

Good luck.
On Jun 28, 2014, at 10:50 AM, Eleanor Martha Burke
<eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi All, I have encountered a problem with my Mac and Voice Over.  My
Open
University tutorial recordings are available to listen to after the live
tutorial and are accessable via the Mac but regretably I am unable to
access
them as the programme crashes with Voice Over. Take Voice Over off and a
sighted person can just click on the play button.  Any suggestions
please.
I
could provide a link with other information if someone feels they could
assist me off list so please write to eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com
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