Cool I'm glad you got it working.  I wish you the very best in your semester 
regarding classes.

Be blessed.
On Jun 30, 2014, at 12:12 PM, Eleanor Martha Burke 
<eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Dear David, I have now resolved my problem regarding my Open University 
> tutorial recording.  To access it without Voice Over, I landed on the Accept 
> button using VO and then lockedown the mouse, hope that is the correct term. 
> Then turned off VO once the mouse was locked in position.  Finally and I am 
> not sure why but I did the lockdown keyboard commands again, 
> spacebar+command+VO+tab and immediately the tutorial started playing.  I was 
> then able to turn on VO again and all was well. Thank you for all the 
> suggestions.  Have downloaded the Chrome but not the add-on yet.  Did not 
> need to use it but no harm in having it there as an additional browser.
> 
> Eleanor
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Griffith" 
> <d.griff...@btinternet.com>
> To: "'OS X & iOS Accessibility'" <mac-access@mac-access.net>
> Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 11:24 AM
> Subject: RE: Accessing Oopen University Online TutorialRecording withMac 
> Problem
> 
> 
>> I very much doubt whether an Apple Genius will be able to match the quality
>> of advice offered by experienced people like Esther on this list.
>> You could  however ask them to refer it  to the Apple Accessibility Team.
>> 
>> I am a bit confused by the Open University  comment.
>> The only way it can make sense if they are talking about using the Google
>> Chrome browser with its inbuilt Chrome Vox  screenreader which can be used
>> instead of Voiceover on the Mac. I suppose this is an option to consider.
>> This is a little bit of a learning curve.
>> I was in any case going to suggest you try Google Chrome with Voiceover on
>> first to see if that replicates the problem.
>> If the problem persists with Voiceover on Chrome you could also Then install
>> the Chrome Vox speech extension and turn voiceover  off to see if that makes
>> the site accessible. I think Sarah is the source of advice on using chrome
>> and Chrome Vox on this list. Chrome Vox only works within Google Chrome and
>> is not a general screen reader.
>> Apart from that in terms of general screen readers the Open University are
>> completely incorrect.
>> There are no current alternative Screenreaders to Voiceover on Mac OS.
>> 
>> There are older ovsolete predecessors and alternative Speech engines  for
>> Terminal but to all practical purposes Voiceover is the only general screen
>> reading option for the Mac.
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
>> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Eleanor Martha Burke
>> Sent: 29 June 2014 11:00
>> To: OS X & iOS Accessibility
>> Subject: Re: Accessing Oopen University Online Tutorial Recording withMac
>> Problem
>> 
>> Hi, the Open University advise I should make an appointment with an Apple
>> Genius, what do you think to that suggestion?  They also say that there is
>> software with speech that will work on the Mac other than Apple's Voice
>> Over. Is this correct?
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Griffith" 
>> <d.griff...@btinternet.com>
>> To: "'OS X & iOS Accessibility'" <mac-access@mac-access.net>
>> Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 9:41 AM
>> Subject: RE: Accessing Oopen University Online Tutorial Recording withMac
>> Problem
>> 
>> 
>>> Can you do a 2 stage process.
>>> 
>>> Locate accept button.
>>> Then route mouse to accept.
>>> Voiceover off.
>>> Click Track pad
>>> Turn on Voiceover
>>> Locate play
>>> Route mouse to the play button.
>>> Turn voiceover off again.
>>> Click Trackpad.
>>> 
>>> Personally I would do all this in a Fusion  window for an easy life.
>>> 
>>> David Griffith
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
>>> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of eleanor martha
>>> burke
>>> Sent: 28 June 2014 23:34
>>> To: OS X & iOS Accessibility
>>> Subject: Re: Accessing Oopen University Online Tutorial Recording with Mac
>>> Problem
>>> 
>>> not quite David I need to hit the accept button and then the screen will
>>> change and I then need to hit a play button
>>> 
>>> Eleanor Martha Burke
>>> 
>>>> On 28 Jun 2014, at 23:20, "David Griffith" <d.griff...@btinternet.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Yes but with Sarah's suggestion Voiceover cannot crash because the whole
>>>> point is that she suggests you turn it off.
>>>> Her suggestion is that you use Voiceover to route the mouse to the
>>> relevant
>>>> button.
>>>> then once the mouse is routed to the button turn Voiceover off.
>>>> Then physically click the  Trackpad which should logically start the
>>>> Video
>>>> playing.
>>>> Once the Video is finished you can press command W to close the Window
>>>> and
>>>> then you should be able to restart Voiceover without the problem of busy
>>>> messages.
>>>> 
>>>> Not perfect and it sounds like you should refer this to
>>>> accessibil...@apple.com to look at this.
>>>> 
>>>> I think they do sort out some problems. After contacting them about a
>>>> problem on using Verified by Visa payments I find I can now do this so it
>>> is
>>>> possible that they responded to my query.
>>>> 
>>>> David Griffith
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
>>>> [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of eleanor martha
>>> burke
>>>> Sent: 28 June 2014 20:13
>>>> To: OS X & iOS Accessibility
>>>> Subject: Re: Accessing Oopen University Online Tutorial Recording with
>>>> Mac
>>>> Problem
>>>> 
>>>> not really because when I click on play with VO on it then crashes
>>>> 
>>>> Eleanor Martha Burke
>>>> 
>>>>> On 28 Jun 2014, at 19:36, Sarah k Alawami <marri...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Can you rouge the curser to the play button shut off vo and cick the
>>>> mouse? Tha'ts all I can give for now.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Good luck.
>>>>>> On Jun 28, 2014, at 10:50 AM, Eleanor Martha Burke
>>>> <eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi All, I have encountered a problem with my Mac and Voice Over.  My
>>> Open
>>>> University tutorial recordings are available to listen to after the live
>>>> tutorial and are accessable via the Mac but regretably I am unable to
>>> access
>>>> them as the programme crashes with Voice Over.  Take Voice Over off and a
>>>> sighted person can just click on the play button.  Any suggestions
>>>> please.
>>> I
>>>> could provide a link with other information if someone feels they could
>>>> assist me off list so please write to eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com
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