yes but Apple will not allowed that at this date. Eleanor Martha Burke
> On 13 Oct 2014, at 22:32, Glenn <glenner...@cableone.net> wrote: > > Hi Doug, perhaps this will help, I saved it from another list. > Glenn > The following, from another list, may be of interest to some who are having > problems with the new firmware: > > Hello Listers, > > > > Since a few people asked about downgrading, I thought I test it out since I > already had the iOS 7.1.2 file downloaded from when I was Beta testing iOS > 8. I wanted to be prepared to downgrade in case it was necessary. Since I > was also contemplating doing a new install of iOS 8 (mine has been just > updated repeatedly all the way back from Beta 1 in June) I thought why not > see if downgrading to iOS 7.1.2 still works before I upgrade to iOS 8. > > > > So, I connected my phone, did a sync and an encrypted backup and then went > to the Restore button in the device section and pressed Shift+Enter (I am > using a Windows 7 laptop). I browsed to where I saved the IPSW file (Apple > Software Update File) and selected it. I was told my phone would be restored > to version 7.1.2, it then went through the steps and 10 minutes later I was > done and iOS 7.1.2 was back on my device. I turned Voiceover with a triple > click of the home button, went through the initial setup screens and I am > now sitting here with a factory restored iOS 7.1.2 installation on my phone. > > > > I thought I mention this for anybody who might be just too unhappy with the > bugs in iOS 8 and prefers the familiar. It is now Sunday, September 21 at > 1:30 PM Pacific time so about 4 days after the public release of iOS 8 (100 > hours to be exact) and it appears that Apple is still allowing downgrading. > I can’t say if this will still work tomorrow and, if it does, whether it > will still work on Tuessday and so on. I am now going to upgrade back to iOS > 8 since while I don’t like some of the bugs I do at the same time like some > of the new features and the latter outweighs the prior. I will not try to > downgrade again in a few days just to see if it works, it’s up to everybody > to decide and do what they feel they must. > > > > If you do want to go back to iOS 7.1.2, you can download the software from > www.IPSWDownloader.com. There are 3 combo boxes where you select your > device, your device model and the firmware. Make sure you know exactly which > model of iPhone or iPad or whatever you have since you will need to know. I > have a GSM iPhone 5S which is version A1533, but if you are on Sprint or > Verizon it might be a different model, I am not exactly sure which carrier > uses which model in the States as I am in Canada. I am pretty sure that an > AT&T iPhone 5S is also model A1533. You can find out either by getting > somebody to look at the baclk of yourt device, the model number is engraved > there. If you want to find out by yourself go to Settings, General and > About. Note down the last 3 or 4 digits/characters of your phone’s serial > number. Now go to http://www.everymac.com/ultimate-mac-lookup and type the > last 3 characters of the serial number in the edit field, then find the > results and the model number will be listed there. If it doesn’t work with 3 > characters try it with 4. The model numbers all start with a letter followed > by 4 numbers, e.g. A1533. > > > > Once you have located the correct IPSW file to download, save it do your > Downloads folder or wherever you can find it again. When the download is > done (iOS 7.1.2 is almost 1.5 Gb) you have to extract it by right clicking > on it and select “Extract All”. In the folder which will show up you will > find the actual IPSW file which is called as follows: > > > > iPhone6,1_7.1.2_11D257_Restore.IPSW > > > > You won’t of course see the extension since most likely you will have “Hide > extensions for known file types” set to On. > > > > Anyhow, now connect your phone to iTunes, go to Restore and press > Shift+Enter on it. In the open dialogue, browse to the IPSW file and open > it, from there everything will proceed as normal. > > > > If you have done a backup under iOS 8 I can’t guaranty that it will restore > perfectly, I would probably recommend to set up as a new phone and start > from scratch,. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Douglas" <doug.c...@gmail.com> > To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" <mac-access@mac-access.net> > Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 3:25 PM > Subject: Re: ios 8 > > > CRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAp. i had no choice, it was only allowing to update, i > couldn’t > cancel or anything…. the thing is practically bricked now cuz of how much it > messed it up. thinking I will be sending apple a very well written email > with a complaint about this issue. > On Oct 13, 2014, at 1:48 PM, Eleanor Martha Burke > <eleanormarthabu...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> No Duglas you cannot revert. My niece who is sighted and not using Voice >> Over, said the update really messed up her iPad Mini. >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Douglas" <doug.c...@gmail.com> >> To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" <mac-access@mac-access.net> >> Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 8:17 PM >> Subject: Re: ios 8 >> >> >> i updated my iPad mini 1st generation the other day. and well. i have came >> across more glitches and bugs that have actually made the iPad impossible >> to use. for example, i am trying to type notes in class, and voice over >> keeps turning on and off on and off on and off. there is no scrolling >> visually, the screen just sticks in one location, etc. As far as i am >> concerned, IOS8 is the worst ios implemented… Can i revert to IOS7 now >> that i have this brutal system in the iPad? >> On Oct 13, 2014, at 12:53 PM, Christopher Hallsworth >> <challswor...@icloud.com> wrote: >> >>> I agree but now I'm coming to terms with the fact some just do not want >>> to update until the bugs are ironed out which is unnecessary but there >>> you go. Each uses our own devices in different ways and think some are >>> scared their habits will be taken away with the update which isn't true >>> at all. As a beta tester I can tell you there were terrible bugs >>> initially with iOS 8, most of which were fixed as the betas progressed to >>> Gold Master and beyond. >>> >>> >>> Sent from my laptop >>> >>>> On 13/10/2014 15:25, Eleanor Martha Burke wrote: >>>> I am a bit like you Chris in that way, like to take the update and then >>>> see what the bugs are and then how they get resolved. They are not so >>>> bad as not to be able to use the device. >>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "christopher hallsworth" >>>> <challswor...@icloud.com> >>>> To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" <mac-access@mac-access.net> >>>> Sent: Monday, October 13, 2014 12:06 PM >>>> Subject: Re: ios 8 >>>> >>>> >>>>> It really comes down to what and how you use your phone. There is no >>>>> right or wrong answer. Suffice to say if you're adventurous like me >>>>> and can cope with bugs and workarounds then go ahead. If not watch >>>>> this space for announcements and posts on updates then decide from >>>>> there. 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