on 5/28/03 12:25 PM, MUGWump at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Until recently, I only knew of the PPC-capable versions of
> SoftWindows and RealPC. Now I've learned that there were 68K versions
> of SoftWindows and an RealPC-equivalent called SoftPC, which have
> apparently passed into the realm of abandonware.

The 68k DOS version was known as SoftPC, and I do have that. The original
release of SoftWindows was available for 68K Macs, but I have never been
able to locate a copy of the 68K version. You can install Win3.1 on SoftPC.

My version of SoftPC is 3 800k diskettes. DOS emulation on the 68k Macs was
quite good within limits. I ran SoftPC on a Mac SE/30 (16Mhz 68030) and it
was useable for standard DOS text, spreadsheet, database operations, but
pretty useless for any DOS graphics uses. SoftPC uses the upper memory for
its own emulation needs, which blocks loading drivers or DOS high. This
keeps one from freeing more than 520-550K of DOS memory. The Pro version
allows access to extended/expanded memory, however it has the same limit on
upper memory.

The SoftPC/SoftWindows packages are no longer distributed but rights to them
belong to FWB software, which as I understand still sells RealPC. RealPC is
in the heritage of SoftPC in that it also uses upper memory for its own use
and makes it difficult to free conventional memory.

Any product of the FWB/Insignia Solutions heritage is a system emulator, and
MS system emulator either DOS or Windows. If you are looking to emulate iron
then Bochs or BlueLable is a better emulator, however the precision of the
emulation will result in MS systems running much slower than they do in the
FWB/Insignia Solutions emulators.
> 
> Does anybody have a copy of the 68K versions? How well did they work?
> It would be interesting to see it working on one of my LC II's.  And
> of course, my usual question, is anyone willing to share a copy? I
> own 2-3 versions of the PPC SoftWindows, so as long as I use it
> within my license terms of SoftWindows, I should be covered legally.
> 
> As with my request for PC Setup 2.x, if someone is willing to share,
> please send it in 1.4MB chunks (.sit, .rar, or .arj) to me at
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, as well as scans of the manual; or a photocopy of
> the manual to P.O. Box 316, Fruitland Park, FL  34731. I'll gladly
> reimburse any costs.

I had downloaded PC Setup 2.1.7 not long back and was not aware it had
dropped from site. I will burn it to CD and send a copy to the address you
list. It is pretty small. A 1.4 meg installer for the Mac, a 1.5 meg DOS
harddrive file with the Windows stuff and a 152K pdf manual. Unless you are
using OS 8.6 or OS 9 on the Mac, V2.1.7 really adds nothing to the software
on the Apple site. That is probably not technically correct, but for
practical purposes it is true. If you are interested only in DOS on the PC
cards, be aware that 2.1.7 has less DOS support than 1.6 from Apple. When
running DOS programs from Windows, the DOS clip board is gone and with 2.1.7
installed one can not start in DOS mode.

bill
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