On 15 Mar 2005, at 22:17, Stuart Bell wrote:


On 15 Mar 2005, at 22:06, ben wrote:

Hi

What would people say was the best value for money 2nd hand laptop, (talking sub 200 quid here)...

The G3 powerbooks I see on ebay, 250mhz and up, are they capable of running os x with any usefulness?

Barely. I'd go for a bottom end Tonka iBook, personally, Then the problem is the 800 x 600 display.


But AFAIK, G3 PBs can't run 10.3.7.

The G3 "Psimo" runs 10.3 quite nicely. I believe that the Lombard machines will run it as well. Some earlier systems (Wallstreet?) are restricted to 10.2 or below and I believe that the original G3 won't officially run OSX at all.


You can get later versions of OSX to run on unsupported systems using XPostfacto (see http://eshop.macsales.com/OSXCenter/XPostFacto/).

If you want to run Tiger (10.4) you'll officially need a machine with built in firewire (and probably a DVD drive), this rules out all G3 Powerbooks before Psimo and also all but the very last of the Tonka iBooks.

I think you have to raise your budget for decent 10.x performance; I'd take a 400MHz TiBook or 500MHz IceBook as a minimum.

The Psimo is quite decent for running OSX, particularly 10.3. It is worth making sure that you have enough memory though. The 500Mhz variant will certainly be faster than a 500Mhz IceBook (faster system bus, more L2 cache), but the price may not be quite as good and the IceBook is a really nice machine...


Ben.


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