Hello...

Okay. So, the PSU will be here soon. It seems this has put a damper in my 
handling of the MachineKit source and usage. Anyway, I will be posting soon 
to show and tell soon.

Seth

P.S. If you all are still interested in me making things works for 
beginners like me w/ Machinekit, okay. Good...I will wait for the PSU to 
arrive and then cracking. 

On Monday, January 25, 2021 at 10:46:04 PM UTC-6 Mala Dies wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I know what I said and I know I have failed so far. Excuse me, I will keep 
> attempting ideas. My power source is on another planet or something. I am 
> still waiting for it. 
>
> ...
>
> So, Jekyll is out. Okay. If the site cannot be done via stretch any longer 
> and has to be rebuilt on another machine, from what I understand, Docker is 
> "precarious." I started some "fancy" coding in html5 and w/out using 
> JavaScript. 
>
> ...
>
> I  host my sites for controlling some bots via a server, some html5, css, 
> and a BBB. I used bind9, virtual hosts, a soon to enable cgi-script(s), and 
> I have a long time to go. New year, new issues!
>
> What is the current standing so far w/ Machinekit.io and "whatever" source 
> needs to be used to duplicate the site. I do not use DBs much. So, 
> replication is still copy and paste over here.
>
> I am not sure I know exactly my part so far, i.e. outside of promoting 
> findings w/ a BBB/BBAI and other board(s). 
>
> Has anyone used the replicape for handling Machinekit.io ideas? So, here 
> is a screenshot of my page online for now. Not fancy, one or two lines 
> only, and no machinekit stuff yet. I am still waiting of the power supply 
> stuff.
>
> I will test the machinekit.io source w/ the replicape and a BBB. I will 
> also stop transmissions w/out production on my part. 
>
> I know I am getting repetitive. Anyway, I hope everyone is doing well in 
> the new year (as well as things can be).
>
>
>
> [image: FirstCapture.PNG]
>
> Seth
>
> P.S. The above snapshot is just a site w/ HTML5. If anyone is working w/ 
> DBs and wants to, from what I am understanding, control the machinekit.io 
> pages w/ a change or two (many), jump in. Blah! I will get more productive 
> soon. 
>
> On Wednesday, December 30, 2020 at 12:14:07 PM UTC-6 ce...@tuta.io wrote:
>
>> Hello, 
>>
>> Dec 29, 2020, 03:04 by fun...@gmail.com: 
>>
>> > Sir, 
>> > 
>> > Also...are you (we) trying to move away from Jekll and markdown? If so, 
>> I should not waste my time in markdown for now. 
>> > 
>> I think the Hugo looks nice, but I wouldn't say that move away from 
>> Jekyll is a must. I have been looking more at what has nice free templates 
>> I could use with minimal changes and that was funnelling my search, not the 
>> backend engine. 
>>
>> (For example I have been looking at 
>> https://github.com/nekocode/codelabs-hugo-theme and 
>> https://github.com/nekocode/codelabs-hugo-theme or 
>> https://github.com/samuelhorn/jamdocs or 
>> https://github.com/jeblister/kube .) 
>>
>> And I think Markdown and ASCIIDoc are nice, but don't have any particular 
>> attachment to any of them. Do you think there is something better what 
>> could be used? 
>>
>> > 
>> > ... 
>> > 
>> > Seth 
>> > 
>> > P.S. I have found that there are some other items out there like what 
>> you described, the CodeLabs and some others, that can help me help you help 
>> me help others. Phew. That was difficult to type out.  
>> > 
>> It was just something I found a little while ago when I was investigating 
>> how to make the documentation better. I am not married to this idea, just 
>> seemed interesting at the time. 
>>
>> Any help welcome! 
>>
>> Cern. 
>>
>> > On Sunday, December 27, 2020 at 6:02:03 PM UTC-6 ce...@tuta.io wrote: 
>> > 
>> >> Hello, 
>> >> Dec 18, 2020, 03:50 by >> fun...@gmail.com <>>> : 
>> >> 
>> >> > Hello, 
>> >> > 
>> >> > You got it. Do not solely rely on me but if you want me to start 
>> sharing ideas, I can keep it up to date constantly. If learning this source 
>> will help me w/ my machines, learning is preferable for me and I can 
>> document things well enough to have others understand it easily (outside of 
>> some reasoning behind C/C++). 
>> >> > 
>> >> I think that different people have different ways of how to approach 
>> this endeavour. Things which were important for me to understand, so I can 
>> boast understanding of the whole system are not necessarily things somebody 
>> else will need to understand for the same level of feelings. I am and was 
>> approaching this from a software engineering point of view, not a machinist 
>> or machine integrator angle. So I am interested in how and with what 
>> exactly people are struggling with. 
>> >> 
>> >> > 
>> >> > Seth 
>> >> > 
>> >> > P.S. So, even though I have not started yet, starting w/ machines is 
>> something I find neat. So, I am starting now at an older age b/c "why not?" 
>> Why would I just sit still doing nothing all day? Oh and sir, I understand 
>> about the gearing towards the BBB for me. I brought it up b/c they have an 
>> image w/ it specifically motioned towards the machinekit ideas. I 
>> understand now that other boards hold machinekit too. Now, if I can only 
>> add in machinekit jargon while creating these messages. Sheesh. 
>> >> > 
>> >> Nobody is too old to learn something new! And on a side note, I have 
>> always found that I am able to learn when I want to, not when I should or 
>> somebody else thinks that I should. Or when I have a problem in need of 
>> solution. So I am fully supporting this approach. 
>> >> 
>> >> Cern. 
>> >> 
>> >> > 
>> >> > On Monday, December 14, 2020 at 9:14:59 PM UTC-6 >> ce...@tuta.io 
>> <>>> wrote: 
>> >> > 
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> Hi, 
>> >> >> sure. I meant that it would be part of the Machinekit.io website 
>> and served as a part of it. But you are right that there currently is no 
>> provision for it and that would need to be scripted in. 
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> So, for now just try to do what you think is best. 
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> I am not against the BBB. It is a good system. If you want to zero 
>> on BBB, then by all means. I was just mentioning, that Machinekit is not 
>> geared only towards BBB and that there are groups using other platforms. 
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> Cern. 
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> Dec 14, 2020, 03:49 by >> >> fun...@gmail.com <>>> <>>> : 
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> > 
>> >> >> > Hello, 
>> >> >> > 
>> >> >> > I can try. I looked over the idea of making the 
>> googlecodelab/tools. I would not want to hold the server on my end but I 
>> may find another resource. I will keep learning and like you said, I will 
>> try to not gear it towards the BBB.  
>> >> >> > 
>> >> >> > ... 
>> >> >> > 
>> >> >> > I just know that those boards are my boards of choice. So, I am a 
>> bit hesitant to try to make it for another type of board or for a 32-bit OS 
>> w/ parport. But, like I say, I can try and I will keep learning while 
>> promoting the effort.  
>> >> >> > 
>> >> >> > Seth 
>> >> >> > On Friday, December 11, 2020 at 8:07:17 PM UTC-6 >> >> 
>> ce...@tuta.io <>>> <>>> wrote: 
>> >> >> > 
>> >> >> >> Hi, 
>> >> >> >> of course, this is a voluntary project, you can take as much 
>> time as you need. I heard that people who just learned something are the 
>> best teachers. I don't know if I agree completely, but for sure it is a 
>> good way how to sort out newly acquired knowledge even better! 
>> >> >> >> 
>> >> >> >> I was thinking of creating few hands-on tutorial for specific 
>> problems with use of Codelabs: >> >> >> 
>> https://github.com/googlecodelabs/tools>> >> >> (It looks quite easy, 
>> has OK-ish template and the flow looks very similar to instructables.) 
>> >> >> >> 
>> >> >> >> Cern. 
>> >> >> >> 
>> >> >> >> 
>> >> >> >> Dec 9, 2020, 07:12 by >> >> >> fun...@gmail.com <>>> <>>> <>>> 
>> : 
>> >> >> >> 
>> >> >> >> > Hello, 
>> >> >> >> > 
>> >> >> >> > If you guys have patience, I would be willing to write up 
>> ideas revolving around MachineKit. It would be a side project but a much 
>> needed one for me. To tell you the truth, I learn a lot of things 
>> constantly. I am always picking up new books, reading articles, and 
>> practicing Linux based initiatives. I use motors for fun for now but I have 
>> been learning more about C/C++ and Python as time persists.  
>> >> >> >> > 
>> >> >> >> > ... 
>> >> >> >> > 
>> >> >> >> > I said the site was fine and I think it is...it is in a list 
>> format. Far from a tree structure but the site is needed if people are to 
>> want to adjust to the way machinekit is set up. 
>> >> >> >> > 
>> >> >> >> > Seth 
>> >> >> >> > On Tuesday, December 8, 2020 at 1:47:43 PM UTC-6 >> >> >> 
>> ce...@tuta.io <>>> <>>> <>>> wrote: 
>> >> >> >> > 
>> >> >> >> >> Thank you for the input! 
>> >> >> >> >> 
>> >> >> >> >> Dec 7, 2020, 07:04 by >> >> >> >> fun...@gmail.com <>>> <>>> 
>> <>>> <>>> : 
>> >> >> >> >> 
>> >> >> >> >> > Hello, 
>> >> >> >> >> > 
>> >> >> >> >> > I say start small w/ the site. Add a few hyperlinks to 
>> start. Make something official geared towards people like me who are 
>> newcomers and willing to spend time dedicated to application. I am a 
>> starter in this field but I am getting older and older. 
>> >> >> >> >> > 
>> >> >> >> >> Yes, small is something which I had in mind. I don't think 
>> there is enough power or willingness to do full in-depth rewrite. 
>> >> >> >> >> 
>> >> >> >> >> > 
>> >> >> >> >> > ... 
>> >> >> >> >> > 
>> >> >> >> >> > Small site and a full representation of a working order 
>> would be nice for people staring blindly at the famous pages that seem to 
>> multiply quickly when viewing. 
>> >> >> >> >> > 
>> >> >> >> >> > I posted a small section from github in the form of a 
>> hyperlink. It basically just goes to an incomplete but dedicated piece of 
>> text on github that supports machinekit ideas w/ gcode, .ini files, and 
>> basics on ideas for setting up commands. 
>> >> >> >> >> > 
>> >> >> >> >> > I think this is a good starter for people. I am sure that 
>> most of you are very educated in this dept. and do not need to bother w/ 
>> newcomers and nonsensical questions. I understand. I have been behind the 
>> helm asking silly questions for five years in the BBB.io world. The books 
>> were nice at first, the starter scripts were nice too, and in the end, it 
>> seems that people stopped their futuristic approach to the entire community 
>> of newcomers, their ideas, and bringing old to new. 
>> >> >> >> >> > 
>> >> >> >> >> > There is no pressure from me. I can learn from the >> >> >> 
>> >> machinekit.io <http://machinekit.io>>> <>> http://machinekit.io>> >>> 
>> <>> >> http://machinekit.io>> >> >>> <>> >> >> http://machinekit.io>> >> 
>> >> >>> site like I have been doing. But after a bit of spending time on the 
>> site, it is an actually large database. It is easy to use and dedicated to 
>> instruction. This is nice. 
>> >> >> >> >> > 
>> >> >> >> >> Most people who I talked about the site said to me that it is 
>> chaotic, the tree structure doesn't make sense and finding anything even 
>> with a search engine is Herculean task. It is interesting that you find the 
>> site fine and definitely something which needs to be taken into 
>> consideration. 
>> >> >> >> >> 
>> >> >> >> >> > 
>> >> >> >> >> > I say keep it or are you guys going to rearrange things a 
>> bit? I ask b/c some of the ideas are not BBB.io related. I am not 
>> affiliated w/ the >> >> >> >> beagleboard.org <http://beagleboard.org>>> 
>> <>> http://beagleboard.org>> >>> <>> >> http://beagleboard.org>> >> >>> 
>> <>> >> >> http://beagleboard.org>> >> >> >>> people but I enjoy using 
>> their boards for learning Linux based initiatives.  
>> >> >> >> >> > 
>> >> >> >> >> I would say the biggest problem is the fact that the site 
>> still presumes (and gives the impression) that Machinekit is monorepo. It 
>> does not differentiate between Machinekit-HAL, MKSoCFPGA, EMCApplication, 
>> HAL_ROS_control (when I include the Zultron's project) and other parts. 
>> >> >> >> >> 
>> >> >> >> >> And I hope many ideas are not BBB related. I would hate if 
>> people thought that Machinekit is BeagleBone only endeavour. 
>> >> >> >> >> 
>> >> >> >> >> > 
>> >> >> >> >> > I just like motor work, the use of motors, and to mfg. new 
>> machines when I can to promote the ideas behind it all. Finding open minds 
>> is not easy. People would rather pay for a Arduino w/ a cheap daughter card 
>> so that they can put GRBL or Marlin on it. Machinekit is not the same and 
>> is highly configurable. This is what I think is nice about the entire set 
>> up you guys have in the CNC world. 
>> >> >> >> >> > 
>> >> >> >> >> Well, to be fair, there is a tonnage of interesting ideas in 
>> the Arduino world. If it all can be somehow interconnected or reused, the 
>> better. In terms of better documentation, getting up some page comparing 
>> Arduino products to Machinekit et al. is source of tension than a helpful 
>> tool in the long run. 
>> >> >> >> >> 
>> >> >> >> >> Cern. 
>> >> >> >> >> 
>> >> >> >> >> > 
>> >> >> >> >> > But, like my old posts in the field, I say a Cape for the 
>> BBB or BBAI would be neat.  
>> >> >> >> >> > 
>> >> >> >> >> > Well, it is late and I have not tested much recently. I 
>> just got trying to handle interrupts on some Python3 source via the Motor 
>> Bridge Cape, the BBGG, and some other source. Testing will ensue! 
>> >> >> >> >> > 
>> >> >> >> >> > Seth 
>> >> >> >> >> > 
>> >> >> >> >> > P.S. Nothing is final. Things evolve, people take specific 
>> routes, and stuff stays the same. MachineKit! 
>> >> >> >> >> > On Monday, November 30, 2020 at 12:54:09 PM UTC-6 >> >> >> 
>> >> ce...@tuta.io <>>> <>>> <>>> <>>> wrote: 
>> >> >> >> >> > 
>> >> >> >> >> >> The was discussion about this problem in the Machinekit 
>> chat room. The truth is that the community support in Machinekit is and was 
>> not good (being tactful) and with changes in development it only got worse. 
>> >> >> >> >> >> 
>> >> >> >> >> >> The documentation is bad and obsolete, the site itself is 
>> pretty chaotic and finding information is almost Sisyphean task. Everybody 
>> recognises this. 
>> >> >> >> >> >> 
>> >> >> >> >> >> The changes happening in development on Github were not 
>> manually propagated here to Google groups. Moreover, the links at top are 
>> again long obsolete in its step-by-step tutorial value (but the overall 
>> explanation and goals are still more or less valid). This is a lot more 
>> murky than to say "The site needs replacement" - because Machinekit always 
>> recognised the need for the user to be proactive and keep a finger on the 
>> pulse of development (and encouraged to do some development themselves). No 
>> version of Machinekit (meaning Machinekit organization's project here and 
>> in whole text) is production ready in the sense of guaranteeing stable 
>> version and high level of support. With the understanding that if somebody 
>> wants to or need to, he should produce his own stable branch (with 
>> implementing upstream changes as he sees fit). That was the status quo for 
>> companies using Machinekit in their commercial offerings. 
>> >> >> >> >> >> 
>> >> >> >> >> >> However, the community forum is good for something like 
>> user issue sharing, basic supporting questions and proud presentations of 
>> own use of Machinekit. Just people should not forget that there is also the 
>> Github issue tracker specific to each project used for developer talk 
>> (which does not mean that only developers or contributors can comment on 
>> presented issues). 
>> >> >> >> >> >> 
>> >> >> >> >> >> This out of the way, let's talk about how to reinvigorate 
>> the Machinekit community (because otherwise all this is useless). The 
>> website with repository README page are first point of contacts with new 
>> users. Usually what I need to know about new OSS is WHAT is it, WHY does it 
>> exist, HOW can I use it and WHEN should I use it. 
>> >> >> >> >> >> 
>> >> >> >> >> >> Current status of Machinekit site did not change much from 
>> the time Machinekit was forked. It is Jekyll based site with own theme 
>> build from Machinekit-docs repository with use of Github Actions service 
>> and deployed to >> >> >> >> >> Machinekit.github.io <
>> http://Machinekit.github.io>>> <>> http://Machinekit.github.io>> >>> <>> 
>> >> http://Machinekit.github.io>> >> >>> <>> >> >> 
>> http://Machinekit.github.io>> >> >> >>> <>> >> >> >> 
>> http://Machinekit.github.io>> >> >> >> >>> repository as Github Pages. I 
>> think this is a nice setup. (Not the Jekyll part, I don't care if Hugo, 
>> Gridsome, Docusaurus or whatever else is used, but the fact that it is 
>> basically static site which can be hosted pretty much anywhere and quickly 
>> replicated in case of problem by anybody.) The build is based on a very 
>> precarious Docker image (which is based on Debian Jessie and cannot be 
>> rebuilt anymore). And some parts are broken and no longer building. In 
>> other word, bad. 
>> >> >> >> >> >> 
>> >> >> >> >> >> So, the path with the least resistance as far as I can see 
>> it is to choose some simple theme with documentation support, change 
>> colours to ochre and teal, put logo at top and write some basic 
>> documentation answering the above presented question. While letting the 
>> current site live somewhere online for users interested in archaeology to 
>> study. Problem is, it is still going to require many man-hours to 
>> accomplish, but it is needed for survival. 
>> >> >> >> >> >> 
>> >> >> >> >> >> The other point is this forum. To tell the truth, I hate 
>> mail lists. But many people love them. Removing the obsolete links is 
>> connected to the website. But maybe the community would be better server 
>> with modern interface with common functions known from other places like 
>> mentions, responsive design for reading on mobile devices (not nice with 
>> current setup), SSO. Tools like Discourse, nodeBB or Flarum are able to 
>> somewhat function over emails with Discourse being the most advanced in 
>> this regard. 
>> >> >> >> >> >> 
>> >> >> >> >> >> So the importation of messages from this group would be 
>> possible and hosting it on 1 GB small server should be enough for the size 
>> of this community. The questing stays if it was a positive move for the 
>> community and not just task for the task itself. 
>> >> >> >> >> >> 
>> >> >> >> >> >> Comments welcome. 
>> >> >> >> >> >> 
>> >> >> >> >> >> Cern. (alias @cerna on Github) 
>> >> >> >> >> >> 
>> >> >> >> >> >> Dne středa 25. listopadu 2020 v 20:46:14 UTC+1 uživatel 
>> sliptonic napsal: 
>> >> >> >> >> >> 
>> >> >> >> >> >>> I'm speaking out of frustration, disappointment, and a 
>> touch of anger. You've been warned. 
>> >> >> >> >> >>> 
>> >> >> >> >> >>> I had such high hopes for this project.  I've been using 
>> linuxcnc/machinekit for 13 years.  Like most people, I have a love-hate 
>> relationship with it.  So much promise and so much frustration all 
>> together.  When the fork happened, I was one who was cheering.  Forks used 
>> to be a bad thing but git changed that.  Forks mean new ideas can be tested 
>> without disturbing the mainline.   "Finally",  I thought,  "New approaches 
>> and solutions.  Hope". 
>> >> >> >> >> >>> 
>> >> >> >> >> >>> Ha!  What a joke.  This project has been a let down.   
>> >> >> >> >> >>> 
>> >> >> >> >> >>> The technical side has been great.  Really some amazing 
>> ideas and progress.   
>> >> >> >> >> >>> The individual people are some of the nicest around.  
>> Helpful, hopeful, and smart.   
>> >> >> >> >> >>> 
>> >> >> >> >> >>> But the project?  Absolute disaster.  Every attempt at 
>> helpful feedback has been met with words and no action.   The C4 concept 
>> might work in other projects but has produced no fruit here at all.  Worse, 
>> it's prevented normal participation by increasing the friction. 
>> >> >> >> >> >>> 
>> >> >> >> >> >>> Documentation is almost non-existent. Where it exists, 
>> it's often contradictory or just wrong. There are no reference projects and 
>> hardly any videos.  The newsgroup is almost silent and the gitter 
>> channel/matrix room are ghost towns where nobody answers. 
>> >> >> >> >> >>> 
>> >> >> >> >> >>> The project started with a high value for using git 
>> (remember that fork thing?).  Today neither the machinekit-hal or 
>> machinekit-cnc repos have any branches or tags besides master.  Seriously, 
>> HOW THE HELL do I find the last known working code!? 
>> >> >> >> >> >>> 
>> >> >> >> >> >>> It looks like someone started a major development effort, 
>> broke things, and then walked away and I can't find any discussion about 
>> that initiative.  Why is it so hard to understand what the hell is going 
>> on? 
>> >> >> >> >> >>> 
>> >> >> >> >> >>> Look, if the project is dead, say that.  Lead it out to 
>> the pasture and put a bullet in its head and let's get back to making 
>> LinuxCNC better.   
>> >> >> >> >> >>> 
>> >> >> >> >> >>> If core contributors don't have time right now to 
>> continue working, can we please take the time to mothball the thing 
>> properly? 
>> >> >> >> >> >>> 
>> >> >> >> >> >>> But if somebody thinks there's still value here (and I 
>> seriously hope you do) then for the love of God can we please do this 
>> right?  Can we document what works, consolidate our communication, and 
>> lower the barriers to contribution? 
>> >> >> >> >> >>> 
>> >> >> >> >> >>> Does anyone still care? 
>> >> >> >> >> >>> 
>> >> >> >> >> >>> Ok, I feel better now. 
>> >> >> >> >> >>> 
>> >> >> >> >> >>> 
>> >> >> >> >> >>> 
>> >> >> >> >> > 
>> >> >> >> >> > 
>> >> >> >> >> > 
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