on 2013-11-21 15:41 LuKreme wrote

On 21 Nov 2013, at 12:26 , steve harley <st...@paper-ape.com> wrote:

Safari claiming 11GB of real memory

That seems excessive.

indeed, but it is just taking what it can; it would probably be lower if the machine didn't have 16GB RAM, or higher if there weren't other apps competing for RAM; in other words, in itself real memory is not a full measure of memory status of an app


and 143GB of VM!

That’s completely irrelevant.

first note that this was VPRVT, not VSIZE

knowing that VM is a matter of mapping address space, some of which is never used and/or never transferred between RAM and disk, i still have a hard time imagining what would need to be mapped to reach that figure, and it correlated strongly with big performance problems

in the above case i didn't capture swap usage, but another time i recorded what may be a different syndrome — 8GB of real and 19GB of VPRVT for Safari Web Content (aka WebProcess in top); in this case, with no other "giant" processes, i had 30GB of swap in use; the implication is that a substantial portion of VPRVT represented data moved at least once between RAM and disk; in both cases system response was terrible due to swapping, and quitting and relaunching Safari with the same tabs brought performance back to normal for at least a couple of days

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