I'm certainly guilty of being off topic and worthy of the ban. At the 
same time I'd like to think some lenience for off topic posts which have 
broad appeal to this list's readership has some positive benefit to the 
community. For myself this is one of the few public mailing list I 
subscribe to. So I both appreciate and try to support some level of 
contributions that are not necessarily Mac/VO related. That said, I am 
not really as interested in reading about new Windows or Jaws features 
via this list. My expectation is that the content will be at around 90% 
Mac/VO and the rest general accessibility related. Strict enforcement of 
Mac/VO topics control may be impossible on one hand and possibly 
detrimental on the other.

CB

Cara Quinn wrote:
>     Hi Greg, well you answered your own question.  :-)  Anything Mac- 
> related is certainly on topic.
>
>    I'm sure sorry you feel like this is 'wrath' but I've gotten *many*  
> requests / complaints from list members whom pay for bandwidth, or  
> have limited time in which to read list mail, but whom would really  
> like to stay on the list for it's informational value.  However, a lot  
> of the more 'chatty' messages really get in the way for them.
>
>    So far these people constitute the majority of whom I'm hearing  
> from, so I need to take that as the general list consensus.
>
>    This is, afterall, your list.  If you all said Cara, I want a chat  
> list, then that's what this would be, and I'd never even consider  
> posting the kind of thing I did earlier.  -But that's not what you're  
> saying to me.  the list is saying that there is too much traffic that  
> isn't relevant, so that's what I'm trying to address as list  
> moderator.  Does this make sense?…
>
>    So, since this is currently the case, when someone deliberately  
> posts something that they, themselves have even labeled as 'Off  
> Topic,' considering that I've posted very nice / polite requests  
> numerous times, I then feel that a post like my earlier one is  
> warranted.  I most certainly don't want to ban anyone nor do I want  
> this list to become a tyrannical place which no one enjoys.  :-)   
> what's the fun in that?
>
>    However, if I keep asking nicely yet people keep feeling that it  
> doesn't apply to them and go on posting notes they're kindly asked not  
> to, then I'm not left with much choice in the matter, yes?…
>
>    In order for this list to work well together, we need to have at  
> least some respect for eachother and awareness that not everyone has  
> the same access to plentiful internet time, nor do we all have the  
> same sorts of leisurely schedules in which to lazily read vast amounts  
> of email.  So since we're all different, we just need to find a good  
> consensus we can come to, that's all…
>
>    Now, you do raise a really good point in the sense of asking  
> exactly what and what is not on-topic, since I'm planning to edit the  
> Welcome message if needed, so I'll try to be as clear as I can.  I  
> certainly don't want there to be any ambiguity and I certainly don't  
> want anyone to feel they need to worry about what they're posting.
>
>    Anyway, I hope this helps answer the question, and I wish you /  
> yours a lovely evening!…
>
> Smiles,
>
> Cara  :)
> ---
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> http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn
>
> On Mar 24, 2009, at 3:40 PM, Greg Kearney wrote:
>
>
> Just what qualifies as "off topic" and can there by bring down the
> wrath of the moderators here. If I had, for example included a post
> saying that I had worked out a bill scanner under OS X would that be
> permitted? I think we could stand to grant some slack here so long as
> it is somewhat related to VO and the Mac and or similar technologies.
>
>         
> Greg Kearney
> 535 S. Jackson St.
> Casper, Wyoming 82601
> 307-224-4022
> gkear...@gmail.com
>
>
>
>
>
> >   

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