Hey there. I sorta have to protest here.:-) Outspoken was a hell of a good screen reader for being as primitive as it seemed. Ok, you didn't have all those fancy things you can do nowadays with screen readers, but it had quite a lot of inventive tricks that you could do. For graphical objects that couldn't be recognized, i.e you knew the position of the object, but you didn't see a graphic, there was a "mark" feature that saved its marks on a per application basis, as i recall. You could name a position and then go to that position by typing the name you gave it. Vo has something similar in its bookmarks and hotspots, only you can't save the positions and they disappear as soon as you close a document and or an application. Too bad in my opinion. There were other things too that were very clever, for example the way they had solved the drag and drop problem. /Krister
19 apr 2009 kl. 11.23 skrev Jessi Rathwell: > > yeah, that would be interesting, a history lesson about accessibility. > although, it doesn't seem like there was too much accessibility before > VO. outspoken seemed like it only did so much. that's funny people > were protesting against GUI's though, although I can see how they > might think that. I'm sure going from a completely text based command > line to a completely graphical interface would've been scary back in > the day. > peace and positivity > Jessi > follow me on twitter www.twitter.com/canadian_diva > On 19-Apr-09, at 2:16 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: > >> >> Hi, >> There were no such names as "tiger" or "leopard" at that time. As far >> as i remember the system was called "system 7". I think it was called >> "Macos" from v8 or possibly v9 but i can be wrong. >> It would be interesting with a little history lesson from a blindness >> perspective of apple products through the years. For example, when >> did >> the Mac become accessible for the first time and what were the >> reactions back then? Here in Sweden in the year of 1989, the >> organization for the young visually impaired actually demonstrated >> against the coming GUIs. They thought that that would more or less be >> the death of accessibility to computers for the blind and the threat >> was called Macintosh. >> /Krister >> >> >> 18 apr 2009 kl. 21.59 skrev Jessi Rathwell: >> >>> >>> haha wow! what was OS7 called? lol. I'm really curious about the >>> rest >>> of the OS's! like I know all OS10s are cat names, but what about >>> before? lol. >>> On 18-Apr-09, at 12:23 PM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> Hi. >>>> My first computer experiences was on a Mac Classic, i think it was >>>> called that ran os 7. I was one of the two, i think, in Sweden who >>>> ran >>>> Macs with Outspoken at that time. I absolutely loved that screen >>>> reader. >>>> /Krister >>>> >>>> >>>> 18 apr 2009 kl. 20.23 skrev Mark Baxter: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> I went to college with an Apple 2C and an Echo Cricket which I did >>>>> all >>>>> my papers on. This was 1986-90, and the whole Dartmouth campus >>>>> was >>>>> wired for Macs. My roommate used to taunt me with the "talking >>>>> moose," application on his Mac 640. I eventually had to trash the >>>>> 2C >>>>> when its disk drive crashed and I couldn't get parts for it. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Mark BurningHawk >>>>> >>>>> Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 >>>>> MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com >>>>> My home page: >>>>> http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>> >>> >>>> >> >> >>> > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
