ooh, I'm jealous too!! I'd love to play with it and see what it was really like!! I didn't get the full experience when I was little. wow!!! peace and positivity Jessi follow me on twitter www.twitter.com/canadian_diva On 19-Apr-09, at 3:08 PM, Cameron wrote:
> > Hi. I agree. Back in the day, When I used Outspoken on my > Macintosh II S > I, and then on my powerbook later, I was able to get many things > done and I > found it to be an efficient way to work. I really grew to like > outspoken as > well as my macs. > > I found outspoken's commands and implementation very logical. > > It didn't get in the way of work flow. > > And yes, the mark feature was nice to have! > > That mac II S I, which I bought second hand, was my first computer. > I loved > that little box and it never crashed on me or anything. > > I remember using one of the very early macs, the classic with the > grayscale > screen, years and years ago. > > My memories of making the switch over to windows 95 and jfw 3.2 I > think it > was, are not as nice. > > Cameron. > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Krister Ekstrom > Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2009 2:59 AM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: oldschool mac nostalgia > > > Hey there. > I sorta have to protest here.:-) Outspoken was a hell of a good screen > reader for being as primitive as it seemed. Ok, you didn't have all > those fancy things you can do nowadays with screen readers, but it had > quite a lot of inventive tricks that you could do. For graphical > objects that couldn't be recognized, i.e you knew the position of the > object, but you didn't see a graphic, there was a "mark" feature that > saved its marks on a per application basis, as i recall. You could > name a position and then go to that position by typing the name you > gave it. Vo has something similar in its bookmarks and hotspots, only > you can't save the positions and they disappear as soon as you close a > document and or an application. Too bad in my opinion. > There were other things too that were very clever, for example the way > they had solved the drag and drop problem. > /Krister > > > 19 apr 2009 kl. 11.23 skrev Jessi Rathwell: > >> >> yeah, that would be interesting, a history lesson about >> accessibility. >> although, it doesn't seem like there was too much accessibility >> before >> VO. outspoken seemed like it only did so much. that's funny people >> were protesting against GUI's though, although I can see how they >> might think that. I'm sure going from a completely text based command >> line to a completely graphical interface would've been scary back in >> the day. >> peace and positivity >> Jessi >> follow me on twitter www.twitter.com/canadian_diva >> On 19-Apr-09, at 2:16 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: >> >>> >>> Hi, >>> There were no such names as "tiger" or "leopard" at that time. As >>> far >>> as i remember the system was called "system 7". I think it was >>> called >>> "Macos" from v8 or possibly v9 but i can be wrong. >>> It would be interesting with a little history lesson from a >>> blindness >>> perspective of apple products through the years. For example, when >>> did >>> the Mac become accessible for the first time and what were the >>> reactions back then? Here in Sweden in the year of 1989, the >>> organization for the young visually impaired actually demonstrated >>> against the coming GUIs. They thought that that would more or less >>> be >>> the death of accessibility to computers for the blind and the threat >>> was called Macintosh. >>> /Krister >>> >>> >>> 18 apr 2009 kl. 21.59 skrev Jessi Rathwell: >>> >>>> >>>> haha wow! what was OS7 called? lol. I'm really curious about the >>>> rest >>>> of the OS's! like I know all OS10s are cat names, but what about >>>> before? lol. >>>> On 18-Apr-09, at 12:23 PM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Hi. >>>>> My first computer experiences was on a Mac Classic, i think it was >>>>> called that ran os 7. I was one of the two, i think, in Sweden who >>>>> ran >>>>> Macs with Outspoken at that time. I absolutely loved that screen >>>>> reader. >>>>> /Krister >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> 18 apr 2009 kl. 20.23 skrev Mark Baxter: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I went to college with an Apple 2C and an Echo Cricket which I >>>>>> did >>>>>> all >>>>>> my papers on. This was 1986-90, and the whole Dartmouth campus >>>>>> was >>>>>> wired for Macs. My roommate used to taunt me with the "talking >>>>>> moose," application on his Mac 640. I eventually had to trash >>>>>> the >>>>>> 2C >>>>>> when its disk drive crashed and I couldn't get parts for it. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Mark BurningHawk >>>>>> >>>>>> Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 >>>>>> MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com >>>>>> My home page: >>>>>> http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>> >>> >>>> >> >> >>> > > > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
