Hi Alex, if you don't like how there doing the elament descriptions, how 
would you prefer them to go about it?  I think that's what we need to be 
asking here?  Maybe you can write to the developers and tell them that 
you're glad that they are taking steps to improve accessibility, but that 
you would like to ask them if they would consider what ever suggestion you 
have?
Gene
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Buddy Brannan" <bu...@brannan.name>
To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 12:10 AM
Subject: Re: Apple is shrugging off Responsibility for Accessibility


>
>
> On Jun 9, 2009, at 11:45 PM, Alex Jurgensen wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Did you guys see the feature to add descriptions to elements. It
>> sounds a lot like FS's JAWS Scripts, don't you think.
>
> No, I don't think. It sounds more like the labeling functions
> available in most screen readers for the past 15 years.
>
>> I think we should bprevent this from happening before it gets out of
>> hand. Too many developers will take that as the easy way out.
>
> And you'd rather have no way to label unlabeled controls and have the
> developers continue to not label them (thus continuing a situation
> with no improvement)? No thanks. While in an ideal world I'd love for
> all developers to always properly label all controls, my pragmatic
> side knows that this will *never* happen. Never. You will not ever
> have 100% compliance. That being the case, I'll take the ability to
> easily label improperly tagged controls, thank you very much.
>
> I'm not sure what your experience with Apple software developers has
> been, but it seems to me that a reasonable percentage are willing to
> work on improving accessibility, when it's brought to their attention
> and as their development cycle allows. Not necessarily so true
> elsewhere. I sincerely doubt that having the ability to label things
> with sighted help or with foreknowledge of the control will make a
> significant number of developers shrug that responsibility off;
> certainly not significantly more than wouldn't bother in the first
> place.
>
>
> >
> 


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