O yes, I entirely agree. They have always acknowledged my posts, and  
I'm sure they are trying to do their best in Braille support. I  
wouldn't be without my Mac now. No regrets switching on my part!

With best wishes, Simon
On 7 Jul 2009, at 16:44, James & Nash wrote:

>
> I hear what you're saying Simon. To Apple's credit, they have always
> acknowledged my messages and have offered support where they can. I  
> still
> like and would continue to use Windows for things but I do miss Mac.  
> That's
> why I'm going to purchase a new one.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Simon Cavendish" <simon.cavend...@googlemail.com>
> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 4:34 PM
> Subject: Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard
>
>
>>
>> I have been e-mailing Apple accessibility regarding providing a
>> broader support in refreshable Braille for other languages. I do hope
>> Snow Leopard is going to bring this aspect to those of us who would
>> benefit from it. It would certainly accelerate my leaving Windows
>> behind altogether.
>>
>> With best wishes
>>
>> Simon
>> On 7 Jul 2009, at 11:50, James & Nash wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Well on the Snow Leopard page there is a host of different features.
>>> Yes, I
>>> think I remember reading that something - it may have been Voice
>>> Over - was
>>> localized in about 40 different languages. But I'm not sure about
>>> Braille
>>> support. However, if you can some way implement BRLTTY or ask Apple
>>> to do so
>>> we may get native foreign language Braille support. I think Apple is
>>> Linux
>>> based, so this should not be too difficult.
>>>
>>> Take care
>>>
>>> James
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "william lomas" <lomaswill...@googlemail.com>
>>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 11:39 AM
>>> Subject: Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> is there a complete list of new features? i.e.
>>> .do we get new language voices i wonder
>>> . new braille support in other alnguages?
>>> etc
>>> i guess we will not know these details really until the product is  
>>> out
>>>
>>> On 7 Jul 2009, at 11:29, James & Nash wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> It sounds like Snow Leopard is an upgrade. Is this the case?
>>>> Fortunately, I
>>>> have a copy of 10.5 which I bought last year so if so then there
>>>> shouldn't
>>>> be any problem.
>>>>
>>>> Take care
>>>>
>>>> James
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Scott Howell" <s.how...@verizon.net>
>>>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 10:25 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Maybe so, but it will be worth upgrading and the cost is so  
>>>>> unreal,
>>>>> it
>>>>> doesn't make much since to skip this upgrade. There are other
>>>>> reasons
>>>>> beyond accessibility to upgrade. I can guarantee you that $30 is a
>>>>> very small price to pay for the improvements and many of which you
>>>>> may
>>>>> not have considered or realized.
>>>>> On Jul 7, 2009, at 2:47 AM, william lomas wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> i doubt we get new voices except maybe the ones found in the i
>>>>>> phone.
>>>>>> I am going to wait to upgrade i think, what I have now works  
>>>>>> fine.
>>>>>> UPgrading won't give us for example, access to flash content so  
>>>>>> no
>>>>>> point in me upgrading since a lot of sites I use, require flash
>>>>>> navigation which adobe have not yet incorporated into the  
>>>>>> safari or
>>>>>> other web browsers
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 7 Jul 2009, at 02:53, Jenny Kennedy wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yay! I'm very very glad to hear this wonderful news. A little
>>>>>>> bummed I
>>>>>>> don't have a fancy trackpad. I have heard some of the iPhone  
>>>>>>> demos
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> gestures just sound so cool and fun.   I guess I'll just put up
>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>> old tech. LOL I hope to get an iPhone in the future and will be
>>>>>>> happy
>>>>>>> to wait 'til then to try gestures. Unless my getting a new  
>>>>>>> macbook
>>>>>>> happens first. But as this one is still fairly newish I'll wait.
>>>>>>> Who
>>>>>>> know by the time it comes time for me to get a new macbook
>>>>>>> they'll of
>>>>>>> come up with many more new and cool things. : smiley :
>>>>>>> Can't wait 'til SL comes out. I know it's not too far off but.  
>>>>>>> It
>>>>>>> sounds so awesome. Am keen to hear any new voices. Have always
>>>>>>> liked
>>>>>>> the UK voices. The best thing would be a UK version of Alex,  
>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> breths and all. I still think that's uber cool how Alex voice  
>>>>>>> does
>>>>>>> that.
>>>>>>> Jenny
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 7/6/09, Scott Howell <s.how...@verizon.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Jenny, first only the Aluminum MacBooks contain the multi-touch
>>>>>>>> trackpad unless Apple upgrades the MacBook line-Remember the
>>>>>>>> aluminum
>>>>>>>> models are now referred to as the MacBook Pro line. Yes SL will
>>>>>>>> work
>>>>>>>> fine on your model. The most significant requirement is it must
>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>> an
>>>>>>>> Intel processor since the Power PC chips, such as found in the
>>>>>>>> G4/G5
>>>>>>>> machines will not be supported by SL. I'd recommend you have at
>>>>>>>> least
>>>>>>>> 2Gb ram, but 1Gb will get the job done. The commands, which are
>>>>>>>> issued
>>>>>>>> from the trackpad are the same commands you can issue currently
>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>> VO. It is another means to interact with the os using VO and it
>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>> hard to say what the future holds for such a trackpad and VO.  
>>>>>>>> The
>>>>>>>> point is that if you have heard the iPhone demos, you can get  
>>>>>>>> an
>>>>>>>> idea
>>>>>>>> of how the trackpad could behave and a little imagination might
>>>>>>>> lead
>>>>>>>> you to speculate what Apple could possibly do in the future.
>>>>>>>> So, have no fear and prepare to upgrade, it will be well worth
>>>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Jul 6, 2009, at 7:59 PM, Jenny Kennedy wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Okay. So am I to understand that the macbook pro line is the
>>>>>>>>> only
>>>>>>>>> line
>>>>>>>>> that has this fancy mousepad thing? I got my macbook in April
>>>>>>>>> of 08
>>>>>>>>> and it is the little white one. I adore it and have been  
>>>>>>>>> waiting
>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>> SL to come out.  Will SL even work at all on this sort of
>>>>>>>>> macbook?
>>>>>>>>> Oh
>>>>>>>>> I'm sure the os will work but will VO function if I don't have
>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>> fancy mousepad thing? Are there keyboard shortcuts to do
>>>>>>>>> whatever
>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>> doable with the mousepad? Sorry to be so abrupt gotta run.
>>>>>>>>> thanks
>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>> any answers
>>>>>>>>> best wishes
>>>>>>>>> Jenny
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 7/6/09, Claude Renaud <cldren...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hello James,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Sunday, July 5, 2009, 12:31:19 PM, you wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> JN> Hi everyone,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> JN> I've been reading the new VO features in Snow Leopard.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Where di you read this please ?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Claude Renaud
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
>>>
>
>
> >


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