It will. On Jul 7, 2009, at 10:13 AM, william lomas wrote: > > what I meant to say was I am not sure if voice over itself will ship > with voices in italian, greek, arabic, russian polish, etc. or whether > we are still locked down to using acapella > > On 7 Jul 2009, at 18:07, Koumanova Rostislava wrote: > >> >> i did not understand this post. >> i know that you have to buy the foreign languages. >> rk >> Il giorno 07/lug/09, alle ore 18:06, william lomas ha scritto: >> >>> >>> it says on the site the quickstart is localised in eighteen >>> languages >>> with nine new ones and with the voices you can hear it in your own >>> languages >>> but i hope that the eighteen or so work with pre-defined foreign >>> voices >>> >>> On 7 Jul 2009, at 16:51, Simon Cavendish wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> O yes, I entirely agree. They have always acknowledged my posts, >>>> and >>>> I'm sure they are trying to do their best in Braille support. I >>>> wouldn't be without my Mac now. No regrets switching on my part! >>>> >>>> With best wishes, Simon >>>> On 7 Jul 2009, at 16:44, James & Nash wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> I hear what you're saying Simon. To Apple's credit, they have >>>>> always >>>>> acknowledged my messages and have offered support where they >>>>> can. I >>>>> still >>>>> like and would continue to use Windows for things but I do miss >>>>> Mac. >>>>> That's >>>>> why I'm going to purchase a new one. >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "Simon Cavendish" <simon.cavend...@googlemail.com> >>>>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >>>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 4:34 PM >>>>> Subject: Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I have been e-mailing Apple accessibility regarding providing a >>>>>> broader support in refreshable Braille for other languages. I do >>>>>> hope >>>>>> Snow Leopard is going to bring this aspect to those of us who >>>>>> would >>>>>> benefit from it. It would certainly accelerate my leaving Windows >>>>>> behind altogether. >>>>>> >>>>>> With best wishes >>>>>> >>>>>> Simon >>>>>> On 7 Jul 2009, at 11:50, James & Nash wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Well on the Snow Leopard page there is a host of different >>>>>>> features. >>>>>>> Yes, I >>>>>>> think I remember reading that something - it may have been Voice >>>>>>> Over - was >>>>>>> localized in about 40 different languages. But I'm not sure >>>>>>> about >>>>>>> Braille >>>>>>> support. However, if you can some way implement BRLTTY or ask >>>>>>> Apple >>>>>>> to do so >>>>>>> we may get native foreign language Braille support. I think >>>>>>> Apple >>>>>>> is >>>>>>> Linux >>>>>>> based, so this should not be too difficult. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Take care >>>>>>> >>>>>>> James >>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>> From: "william lomas" <lomaswill...@googlemail.com> >>>>>>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 11:39 AM >>>>>>> Subject: Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> is there a complete list of new features? i.e. >>>>>>> .do we get new language voices i wonder >>>>>>> . new braille support in other alnguages? >>>>>>> etc >>>>>>> i guess we will not know these details really until the product >>>>>>> is >>>>>>> out >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 7 Jul 2009, at 11:29, James & Nash wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> It sounds like Snow Leopard is an upgrade. Is this the case? >>>>>>>> Fortunately, I >>>>>>>> have a copy of 10.5 which I bought last year so if so then >>>>>>>> there >>>>>>>> shouldn't >>>>>>>> be any problem. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Take care >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> James >>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>> From: "Scott Howell" <s.how...@verizon.net> >>>>>>>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 10:25 AM >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Maybe so, but it will be worth upgrading and the cost is so >>>>>>>>> unreal, >>>>>>>>> it >>>>>>>>> doesn't make much since to skip this upgrade. There are other >>>>>>>>> reasons >>>>>>>>> beyond accessibility to upgrade. I can guarantee you that $30 >>>>>>>>> is a >>>>>>>>> very small price to pay for the improvements and many of which >>>>>>>>> you >>>>>>>>> may >>>>>>>>> not have considered or realized. >>>>>>>>> On Jul 7, 2009, at 2:47 AM, william lomas wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> i doubt we get new voices except maybe the ones found in >>>>>>>>>> the i >>>>>>>>>> phone. >>>>>>>>>> I am going to wait to upgrade i think, what I have now works >>>>>>>>>> fine. >>>>>>>>>> UPgrading won't give us for example, access to flash content >>>>>>>>>> so >>>>>>>>>> no >>>>>>>>>> point in me upgrading since a lot of sites I use, require >>>>>>>>>> flash >>>>>>>>>> navigation which adobe have not yet incorporated into the >>>>>>>>>> safari or >>>>>>>>>> other web browsers >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 7 Jul 2009, at 02:53, Jenny Kennedy wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Yay! I'm very very glad to hear this wonderful news. A >>>>>>>>>>> little >>>>>>>>>>> bummed I >>>>>>>>>>> don't have a fancy trackpad. I have heard some of the iPhone >>>>>>>>>>> demos >>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>> gestures just sound so cool and fun. I guess I'll just put >>>>>>>>>>> up >>>>>>>>>>> with >>>>>>>>>>> old tech. LOL I hope to get an iPhone in the future and will >>>>>>>>>>> be >>>>>>>>>>> happy >>>>>>>>>>> to wait 'til then to try gestures. Unless my getting a new >>>>>>>>>>> macbook >>>>>>>>>>> happens first. But as this one is still fairly newish I'll >>>>>>>>>>> wait. >>>>>>>>>>> Who >>>>>>>>>>> know by the time it comes time for me to get a new macbook >>>>>>>>>>> they'll of >>>>>>>>>>> come up with many more new and cool things. : smiley : >>>>>>>>>>> Can't wait 'til SL comes out. I know it's not too far off >>>>>>>>>>> but. >>>>>>>>>>> It >>>>>>>>>>> sounds so awesome. Am keen to hear any new voices. Have >>>>>>>>>>> always >>>>>>>>>>> liked >>>>>>>>>>> the UK voices. The best thing would be a UK version of Alex, >>>>>>>>>>> with >>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>> breths and all. I still think that's uber cool how Alex >>>>>>>>>>> voice >>>>>>>>>>> does >>>>>>>>>>> that. >>>>>>>>>>> Jenny >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 7/6/09, Scott Howell <s.how...@verizon.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Jenny, first only the Aluminum MacBooks contain the multi- >>>>>>>>>>>> touch >>>>>>>>>>>> trackpad unless Apple upgrades the MacBook line-Remember >>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>> aluminum >>>>>>>>>>>> models are now referred to as the MacBook Pro line. Yes SL >>>>>>>>>>>> will >>>>>>>>>>>> work >>>>>>>>>>>> fine on your model. The most significant requirement is it >>>>>>>>>>>> must >>>>>>>>>>>> be >>>>>>>>>>>> an >>>>>>>>>>>> Intel processor since the Power PC chips, such as found in >>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>> G4/G5 >>>>>>>>>>>> machines will not be supported by SL. I'd recommend you >>>>>>>>>>>> have >>>>>>>>>>>> at >>>>>>>>>>>> least >>>>>>>>>>>> 2Gb ram, but 1Gb will get the job done. The commands, which >>>>>>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>>>>>> issued >>>>>>>>>>>> from the trackpad are the same commands you can issue >>>>>>>>>>>> currently >>>>>>>>>>>> with >>>>>>>>>>>> VO. It is another means to interact with the os using VO >>>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>>> it >>>>>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>>>>> hard to say what the future holds for such a trackpad and >>>>>>>>>>>> VO. >>>>>>>>>>>> The >>>>>>>>>>>> point is that if you have heard the iPhone demos, you can >>>>>>>>>>>> get >>>>>>>>>>>> an >>>>>>>>>>>> idea >>>>>>>>>>>> of how the trackpad could behave and a little imagination >>>>>>>>>>>> might >>>>>>>>>>>> lead >>>>>>>>>>>> you to speculate what Apple could possibly do in the >>>>>>>>>>>> future. >>>>>>>>>>>> So, have no fear and prepare to upgrade, it will be well >>>>>>>>>>>> worth >>>>>>>>>>>> it. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 6, 2009, at 7:59 PM, Jenny Kennedy wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Okay. So am I to understand that the macbook pro line is >>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>> only >>>>>>>>>>>>> line >>>>>>>>>>>>> that has this fancy mousepad thing? I got my macbook in >>>>>>>>>>>>> April >>>>>>>>>>>>> of 08 >>>>>>>>>>>>> and it is the little white one. I adore it and have been >>>>>>>>>>>>> waiting >>>>>>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>>>>> SL to come out. Will SL even work at all on this sort of >>>>>>>>>>>>> macbook? >>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh >>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm sure the os will work but will VO function if I don't >>>>>>>>>>>>> have >>>>>>>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>>>>>>> fancy mousepad thing? Are there keyboard shortcuts to do >>>>>>>>>>>>> whatever >>>>>>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>>>>>> doable with the mousepad? Sorry to be so abrupt gotta run. >>>>>>>>>>>>> thanks >>>>>>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>>>>> any answers >>>>>>>>>>>>> best wishes >>>>>>>>>>>>> Jenny >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/6/09, Claude Renaud <cldren...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello James, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sunday, July 5, 2009, 12:31:19 PM, you wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> JN> Hi everyone, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> JN> I've been reading the new VO features in Snow >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Leopard. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Where di you read this please ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Claude Renaud >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>> >>> >>>> >> >> >>> > > > >
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