fair enough though we are all blind and have a right to know what will be included in my view
On 7 Jul 2009, at 19:11, Alex Jurgensen wrote: > > Hi, > Red flag, > > We are moving into grey ares. Please keep the posts NDA compliant. > > Thanks, > Alex, > > > On 7-Jul-09, at 10:46 AM, Justin Harford wrote: > >> >> It will. >> On Jul 7, 2009, at 10:13 AM, william lomas wrote: >> >>> >>> what I meant to say was I am not sure if voice over itself will ship >>> with voices in italian, greek, arabic, russian polish, etc. or >>> whether >>> we are still locked down to using acapella >>> >>> On 7 Jul 2009, at 18:07, Koumanova Rostislava wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> i did not understand this post. >>>> i know that you have to buy the foreign languages. >>>> rk >>>> Il giorno 07/lug/09, alle ore 18:06, william lomas ha scritto: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> it says on the site the quickstart is localised in eighteen >>>>> languages >>>>> with nine new ones and with the voices you can hear it in your own >>>>> languages >>>>> but i hope that the eighteen or so work with pre-defined foreign >>>>> voices >>>>> >>>>> On 7 Jul 2009, at 16:51, Simon Cavendish wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> O yes, I entirely agree. They have always acknowledged my posts, >>>>>> and >>>>>> I'm sure they are trying to do their best in Braille support. I >>>>>> wouldn't be without my Mac now. No regrets switching on my part! >>>>>> >>>>>> With best wishes, Simon >>>>>> On 7 Jul 2009, at 16:44, James & Nash wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I hear what you're saying Simon. To Apple's credit, they have >>>>>>> always >>>>>>> acknowledged my messages and have offered support where they >>>>>>> can. I >>>>>>> still >>>>>>> like and would continue to use Windows for things but I do miss >>>>>>> Mac. >>>>>>> That's >>>>>>> why I'm going to purchase a new one. >>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>> From: "Simon Cavendish" <simon.cavend...@googlemail.com> >>>>>>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 4:34 PM >>>>>>> Subject: Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I have been e-mailing Apple accessibility regarding providing a >>>>>>>> broader support in refreshable Braille for other languages. I >>>>>>>> do >>>>>>>> hope >>>>>>>> Snow Leopard is going to bring this aspect to those of us who >>>>>>>> would >>>>>>>> benefit from it. It would certainly accelerate my leaving >>>>>>>> Windows >>>>>>>> behind altogether. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> With best wishes >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Simon >>>>>>>> On 7 Jul 2009, at 11:50, James & Nash wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Well on the Snow Leopard page there is a host of different >>>>>>>>> features. >>>>>>>>> Yes, I >>>>>>>>> think I remember reading that something - it may have been >>>>>>>>> Voice >>>>>>>>> Over - was >>>>>>>>> localized in about 40 different languages. But I'm not sure >>>>>>>>> about >>>>>>>>> Braille >>>>>>>>> support. However, if you can some way implement BRLTTY or ask >>>>>>>>> Apple >>>>>>>>> to do so >>>>>>>>> we may get native foreign language Braille support. I think >>>>>>>>> Apple >>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>> Linux >>>>>>>>> based, so this should not be too difficult. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Take care >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> James >>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>>> From: "william lomas" <lomaswill...@googlemail.com> >>>>>>>>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 11:39 AM >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> is there a complete list of new features? i.e. >>>>>>>>> .do we get new language voices i wonder >>>>>>>>> . new braille support in other alnguages? >>>>>>>>> etc >>>>>>>>> i guess we will not know these details really until the >>>>>>>>> product >>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>> out >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 7 Jul 2009, at 11:29, James & Nash wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> It sounds like Snow Leopard is an upgrade. Is this the case? >>>>>>>>>> Fortunately, I >>>>>>>>>> have a copy of 10.5 which I bought last year so if so then >>>>>>>>>> there >>>>>>>>>> shouldn't >>>>>>>>>> be any problem. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Take care >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> James >>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>>>> From: "Scott Howell" <s.how...@verizon.net> >>>>>>>>>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 10:25 AM >>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Maybe so, but it will be worth upgrading and the cost is so >>>>>>>>>>> unreal, >>>>>>>>>>> it >>>>>>>>>>> doesn't make much since to skip this upgrade. There are >>>>>>>>>>> other >>>>>>>>>>> reasons >>>>>>>>>>> beyond accessibility to upgrade. I can guarantee you that >>>>>>>>>>> $30 >>>>>>>>>>> is a >>>>>>>>>>> very small price to pay for the improvements and many of >>>>>>>>>>> which >>>>>>>>>>> you >>>>>>>>>>> may >>>>>>>>>>> not have considered or realized. >>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 7, 2009, at 2:47 AM, william lomas wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> i doubt we get new voices except maybe the ones found in >>>>>>>>>>>> the i >>>>>>>>>>>> phone. >>>>>>>>>>>> I am going to wait to upgrade i think, what I have now >>>>>>>>>>>> works >>>>>>>>>>>> fine. >>>>>>>>>>>> UPgrading won't give us for example, access to flash >>>>>>>>>>>> content >>>>>>>>>>>> so >>>>>>>>>>>> no >>>>>>>>>>>> point in me upgrading since a lot of sites I use, require >>>>>>>>>>>> flash >>>>>>>>>>>> navigation which adobe have not yet incorporated into the >>>>>>>>>>>> safari or >>>>>>>>>>>> other web browsers >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 7 Jul 2009, at 02:53, Jenny Kennedy wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Yay! I'm very very glad to hear this wonderful news. A >>>>>>>>>>>>> little >>>>>>>>>>>>> bummed I >>>>>>>>>>>>> don't have a fancy trackpad. I have heard some of the >>>>>>>>>>>>> iPhone >>>>>>>>>>>>> demos >>>>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>>>> gestures just sound so cool and fun. I guess I'll just >>>>>>>>>>>>> put >>>>>>>>>>>>> up >>>>>>>>>>>>> with >>>>>>>>>>>>> old tech. LOL I hope to get an iPhone in the future and >>>>>>>>>>>>> will >>>>>>>>>>>>> be >>>>>>>>>>>>> happy >>>>>>>>>>>>> to wait 'til then to try gestures. Unless my getting a new >>>>>>>>>>>>> macbook >>>>>>>>>>>>> happens first. But as this one is still fairly newish I'll >>>>>>>>>>>>> wait. >>>>>>>>>>>>> Who >>>>>>>>>>>>> know by the time it comes time for me to get a new macbook >>>>>>>>>>>>> they'll of >>>>>>>>>>>>> come up with many more new and cool things. : smiley : >>>>>>>>>>>>> Can't wait 'til SL comes out. I know it's not too far off >>>>>>>>>>>>> but. >>>>>>>>>>>>> It >>>>>>>>>>>>> sounds so awesome. Am keen to hear any new voices. Have >>>>>>>>>>>>> always >>>>>>>>>>>>> liked >>>>>>>>>>>>> the UK voices. The best thing would be a UK version of >>>>>>>>>>>>> Alex, >>>>>>>>>>>>> with >>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>> breths and all. I still think that's uber cool how Alex >>>>>>>>>>>>> voice >>>>>>>>>>>>> does >>>>>>>>>>>>> that. >>>>>>>>>>>>> Jenny >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/6/09, Scott Howell <s.how...@verizon.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jenny, first only the Aluminum MacBooks contain the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> multi- >>>>>>>>>>>>>> touch >>>>>>>>>>>>>> trackpad unless Apple upgrades the MacBook line-Remember >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> aluminum >>>>>>>>>>>>>> models are now referred to as the MacBook Pro line. Yes >>>>>>>>>>>>>> SL >>>>>>>>>>>>>> will >>>>>>>>>>>>>> work >>>>>>>>>>>>>> fine on your model. The most significant requirement is >>>>>>>>>>>>>> it >>>>>>>>>>>>>> must >>>>>>>>>>>>>> be >>>>>>>>>>>>>> an >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Intel processor since the Power PC chips, such as found >>>>>>>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> G4/G5 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> machines will not be supported by SL. I'd recommend you >>>>>>>>>>>>>> have >>>>>>>>>>>>>> at >>>>>>>>>>>>>> least >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2Gb ram, but 1Gb will get the job done. The commands, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> which >>>>>>>>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>>>>>>>> issued >>>>>>>>>>>>>> from the trackpad are the same commands you can issue >>>>>>>>>>>>>> currently >>>>>>>>>>>>>> with >>>>>>>>>>>>>> VO. It is another means to interact with the os using VO >>>>>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>>>>> it >>>>>>>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>>>>>>> hard to say what the future holds for such a trackpad and >>>>>>>>>>>>>> VO. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The >>>>>>>>>>>>>> point is that if you have heard the iPhone demos, you can >>>>>>>>>>>>>> get >>>>>>>>>>>>>> an >>>>>>>>>>>>>> idea >>>>>>>>>>>>>> of how the trackpad could behave and a little imagination >>>>>>>>>>>>>> might >>>>>>>>>>>>>> lead >>>>>>>>>>>>>> you to speculate what Apple could possibly do in the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> future. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, have no fear and prepare to upgrade, it will be well >>>>>>>>>>>>>> worth >>>>>>>>>>>>>> it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 6, 2009, at 7:59 PM, Jenny Kennedy wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Okay. So am I to understand that the macbook pro line is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> only >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> line >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that has this fancy mousepad thing? I got my macbook in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> April >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of 08 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and it is the little white one. I adore it and have been >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> waiting >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SL to come out. Will SL even work at all on this sort >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> macbook? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm sure the os will work but will VO function if I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fancy mousepad thing? Are there keyboard shortcuts to do >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> whatever >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doable with the mousepad? Sorry to be so abrupt gotta >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> run. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thanks >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any answers >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> best wishes >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jenny >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/6/09, Claude Renaud <cldren...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello James, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sunday, July 5, 2009, 12:31:19 PM, you wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> JN> Hi everyone, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> JN> I've been reading the new VO features in Snow >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Leopard. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Where di you read this please ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Claude Renaud >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>> >>> >>>> >> >> >>> > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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