Umm, I think they made the option to pay a bit more and get a DRM-free version. What they call the 'Plus' version. So for USD$.99 you get DRM and for $1.29 you get DRM free. Of course media owners had the option of also going USD$.69 per track for 'back catalog' stuff but of course tose are hard to find, if they exist at all. At least I haven't found any .69 tracks.
CB Alex Jurgensen wrote: > Hi, > > iTunes itself got rid of DRM on all music with the iTunes Music store > recently. As someone said, if people want it bad enough they will take > it to the exstremes to get it. > > Regards, > alex, > > > On 15-Jul-09, at 8:52 PM, Maurice Mines wrote: > > >> hi this so the chafee amenent can be folled please don't misunderstand >> me we must keep it just for the print disabled or we will luse the >> exzpation ie if it isnot broken we shud not give the others gild >> enaymor amo to put up roodblokes to a good and a good degree. drm is >> the only that publishers can be assered that we won't piret the books. >> ie no ipods and sertly no itunes in less we the blind can due it so we >> can be protected here in the us. >> On Jul 15, 2009, at 6:55 PM, Barry Hadder wrote: >> >> >>> Greg: >>> >>> I want to make clear that All of my comments were solely in regards >>> to NLS >>> and RFBD. I know nothing about what you do. >>> >>> I have never heard of the daisy format being playable on anything >>> but a >>> specialized player. If it can actually be played on an IPod, then >>> that is a >>> good thing but it's news to me. I personally have not had good >>> experiences >>> with so we'll just have to have a friendly disagreement for the >>> moment on >>> whether or not it's any good or not. I've found it to be bloated >>> and overly >>> complex. I have encountered many that weren't marked up for >>> navigation >>> properly which makes them harder to navigate than cassette tapes in >>> my >>> opinion. Granted, all of my experiences are with the rfbd versions >>> but I'm >>> not totally sure that it makes that much difference. My point was >>> not to >>> step on someone's favorite file format, but to address the fact that >>> there >>> are main streme formats that would have worked quite well as a >>> delivery >>> system for NLS and RFBD that would have worked for both the pc and >>> mac. >>> That being said, If the Daisy can be made to work on non daisy >>> devices, than >>> it's fine as for as I'm concerned. >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Greg Kearney" <gkear...@gmail.com> >>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >>> Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 7:14 PM >>> Subject: Re: NLS digital books and future versions of iTunes,iPod, >>> iPhone? >>> >>> >>> >>>> The Daisy standard is hardly a "bizarre format" and when made >>>> correctly the books are playable on existing iPods and other such >>>> devices. The issue here is not Daisy the issue is that NLS and to a >>>> lesser degree RFB&D have chosen to add digital rights management aka >>>> encryption to their books. >>>> >>>> We make books without any DRM and include playlist so that they are >>>> playable on other non-Daisy devices. Daisy offers advantages such as >>>> multiple bookmarks, page and section navigation and the option to >>>> hear >>>> notes or not as needed. >>>> >>>> Daisy is a public standard and is published for all to use at >>>> www.daisy.org >>>> >>>> >>>> Gregory Kearney >>>> Manager - Accessible Media >>>> Association for the Blind of Western Australia >>>> 61 Kitchener Avenue, PO Box 101 >>>> Victoria Park 6979, WA Australia >>>> >>>> Telephone: +61 (08) 9311 8202 >>>> Telephone: +1 (307) 224-4022 (North America) >>>> Fax: +61 (08) 9361 8696 >>>> Toll free: 1800 658 388 (Australia only) >>>> Email: gkear...@gmail.com >>>> >>>> On Jul 16, 2009, at 12:53 AM, Barry Hadder wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> That's definitely my vision of how things should be. However, all >>>>> such blind services (i.e. NLS, RFBD) seem to be hell bent on >>>>> producing >>>>> material in some bizarre format completely incompatible with >>>>> anything >>>>> that the main stream world is using. I wonder just how much money >>>>> actually goes in to the research development of that crap anyway. >>>>> Also, I think it will be a long time before the prevailing myth >>>>> that >>>>> "blind folks are supposed to use windblows based pcs" is broken. >>>>> The >>>>> more everyone requests compatiblity with other platforms the more >>>>> chance there will be for change. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Jul 14, 2009, at 10:39 PM, Chris Polk wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> that would be really cool to have only one device for all of the >>>>>> books/ >>>>>> music/phone/email, well you get the point. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Jul 14, 2009, at 8:26 PM, Jenny Kennedy (Howard) wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi guys, >>>>>>> Well it looks as if the NLS here in the U.S. is going to be >>>>>>> rolling >>>>>>> out their long awaited digital talkingbooks and players in a few >>>>>>> months program wide. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> For a while there have been beta testers that have used assorted >>>>>>> aspects of the program's hardware and software. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The digital talking books are going to be put on flash memory and >>>>>>> people who have the victor reader stream have been able to >>>>>>> download >>>>>>> digital files of the books to play on their players for a while. >>>>>>> You >>>>>>> have to register for the service and receive a special file that >>>>>>> you >>>>>>> load onto the stream from what I understand and it pinpoints you >>>>>>> as a >>>>>>> registered NLS user and allows you to use the download-able >>>>>>> files. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Well I am wondering if it would be possible for Apple to team up >>>>>>> with >>>>>>> NLS like they've done with Audible and allow iTunes, future iPods >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> or the iPhone to play the NLS DTBs? I am thinking it would be >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> best thing in the world if I could put NLS books in iTunes and >>>>>>> on my >>>>>>> iPod. This can be done but it is against the law and cumbersome >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> time consuming. LOL and it would be just better in my way of >>>>>>> thinking >>>>>>> if NLS DTBs would just go on the iPod all on their own without >>>>>>> much >>>>>>> fuss or muss. >>>>>>> Do you all think this could be done and is it something anyone >>>>>>> else >>>>>>> would like to see? >>>>>>> How would people e go about telling Apple to look into this or >>>>>>> like I >>>>>>> said is it even possible? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Best Wishes >>>>>>> Jenny Kennedy (Howard) >>>>>>> blueskyes9112...@gmail.com >>>>>>> Olathe, Kansas USA >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Join me on FaceBook: >>>>>>> Personal Profile - www.facebook.com/blueskyes >>>>>>> And feel free to join "The Blind Parents of FaceBook" group. >>>>>>> Search >>>>>>> for it in groups or contact me for details. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Follow me via twitter using the username: ben_folds_fan >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> > > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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