The c key is the letter c.
On Aug 23, 2009, at 10:12 PM, Dr.Khalid wrote:

> Hi!
>
> You wrote:
> "insert the original install DVD and restart holding down the "C"  
> key. "
> What is the "C" key? is it the control or the command key?
>
> I'm not sure how to reset the password. I have the installer DVD   
> with me, but I'm not sure how to precede. Any help is appreciated ..
>
> TIA
> Khalid
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Esther
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 10:20 PM
> Subject: Re: Updating Mac 10.5 (password)
>
> Hello,
>
> I assume that Jonathan is suggesting you go into System Preferences.
>
> 1. VO-Shift M to navigate to the Apple Menu bar, where "VO" means  
> hold down the Control and Option keys together with any other keys  
> listed as part of the instructions).
> 2. Press "s y" quickly or Arrow down to get to the "System  
> Preferences" menu option and press enter.
> 3. In the System Preferences window press tab or use VO-Right Arrow  
> to navigate to the "Accounts" button (about 20 presses)
> 4. VO-Space to select "Accounts"
> 5. In the Accounts Menu, VO-Right Arrow from the toolbar to the  
> Groups and Login Options list and interact (VO-Shift-Down Arrow).
> 6. The first item should be your friend's account, and you'll hear  
> his login name followed by a description of his account access  
> level, such as "Admin", "Standard", or "Sharing Only". What gets  
> announced as his account access?
>
> If your friend does not have "Admin" status, you cannot run the  
> system update from his account.  Is there some other account listed  
> in the login options list that says "Admin"? As Jonathan says, you  
> should be able to use the install DVD to set up an Admin account and  
> password if one is not present, but the problem is that if there  
> were any other system actions that have been performed that required  
> login and password, you will lose the record of these permissions  
> that have been kept in the system's keychain permission records.  If  
> your friend does have Admin status, you can try to stop interacting  
> (VO-Shift-Up arrow), and tab over to the "Change Password" button  
> and press it (VO-Space).  Problem is, you'll have to type in an old  
> password (twice, to verify your typing) and then a new password.  If  
> there really was no old password, you can leave the old password  
> field empty and just press enter each time, then type in your new  
> password.  But if you couldn't just type in a new password the way  
> that Max suggested, the chances are that there was a password set  
> up, but your friend either didn't know it or has forgotten it,  
> because he has set up his machine to allow him to automatically log  
> in. Remember when you type user name and password that these entries  
> may be case sensitive.
>
> I'm not sure how to proceed if this is the case and you can't set a  
> password.  You should be able to insert the original install DVD and  
> restart holding down the "C" key.  After you turn on VoiceOver with  
> either Command-F5 or Fn-Command-F5 and get past the keyboard and  
> language screens you should be able to go to the menu bar with VO-M  
> and right arrow over to Utilities, then choose an option to Reset  
> Password.  I'm not able to check this here, so maybe Jonathan or  
> someone else can assist.  However, if you do reset the password you  
> can use that password to run the updates.
>
> HTH
>
> Cheers,
>
> Esther
>
> Dr.Khalid wrote:
>  >
> Hi!
>
> How can I check the account pain and change the password from  
> there ? BTW, I'm still new to the world of Mac and VoiceOver --  
> however, I'm enjoying this new world so much ..
>
> Best
> Khalid
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jonathan C. Cohn
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 9:05 PM
> Subject: Re: Updating Mac 10.5 (password)
>
> Ah, the problem of the automatic login.  You could boot with the  
> Leopard disk and reset his password, but that will probably lock him  
> out of all his keychains.  Check the accounts pane, and see if you  
> can change his password there.
>
> Also, it is well advised for  security reasons, to not use the  
> Administrator login created at system startup for day to day  
> activities. It adds a additional layer of security if any trojan  
> horse  or other malware needs to skip to a administrative login in  
> order to get full access to the machine's root / full access.
>
> Jonathan
> On Aug 13, 2009, at 11:52 PM, Dr.Khalid wrote:
>
>> Hi All!
>>
>> I'm trying to update my friend MacBook Pro from v 105.5 to 10.5.8.  
>> I pressed VO-M, then I chose the software update. It says there are  
>> 9 updates. I tried several times to install the updates, or some of  
>> the updates, but each time the updater ask me for a username and  
>> password. I asked my friend, and he told me he doesn't have any  
>> password in his machine. I wonder, what I should do? How can I pass  
>> this password thing? I should note though that when I press OK and  
>> leave the password field empty, the updater doesn't accept this,  
>> and will say either the username or password is wrong.
>>
>> TIA
>> Khalid
>>
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