Good evening, before we start characterizing software good, or bad. I think we 
need to stop and try and think of who might be reading this. Most people it is 
true don't need dictation but some of us were actually have verified written 
expression disorders and other disabling conditions that require the use of 
dragon would be helpful to make certain that we keep those people than mine. 
Personally I do use Dragon because of the above-mentioned written expression 
disorder. I've only used version three until five have had no real problems 
with voiceover. But I also use a braille wdisplay separate from my normal 
computing experience. I know that there is some concern about being able to use 
the product by telling it what to do as far as screen motion I think though 
that you run the risk of entangling with VoiceOver and that could lead to some 
headaches. When I get the chance I will actually use version four and will see 
how good or bad it is with VoiceOver. The concerns that Dragon is inaccessible 
are not true. I have not had any problems using it after making a few 
modifications they are minor. The biggest thing one needs to remember is one 
should use the headset and keep voiceover and Dragon separate as far as

Sincerely, Maurice Mines.
Student accessibility aid.
Voicemail phone, 360-524-0791.
Work/school email address, maurice.mi...@pcc.edu.

> On Mar 8, 2014, at 8:57 PM, Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com> wrote:
> 
> Dragon for Mac v3.x is inaccessible, even the company admits to that. I 
> haven't tested out v4 yet. Still, if it lacks things like voice commands to 
> move around and edit text, or move up and down menus and tables, I don't see 
> the point. For straight dictation, the Mac does well. That said, Dragon 
> learns as you correct it, whereas the mac does not, and Dragon is (from 
> reviews I've read) more accurate even out of the box, with no training. If 
> you have problems with the keyboard, look at Dragon, but be sure to test if 
> for accessibility and the features you will need. If you need basic dictation 
> and will not be dictating exclusively, I'd save my money. Those are just my 
> thoughts.
>> On Mar 8, 2014, at 6:04 PM, David Chittenden <dchitten...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Interesting, I believe the ScanSoft speech recognition is the basis for both 
>> speech recognition systems. Given that Mac Dictate can now be loaded 
>> directly on the Mac for continuous speech recognition, Dragon would most 
>> likely only be beneficial if one needed to use more granulated Command and 
>> Control rather than just speech dictation recognition. That said, I have no 
>> idea how well Dragon will be integrated with VoiceOver. 
>> 
>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 9 Mar 2014, at 11:25, Apple boy <christopher...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Ditto. Not that I use dictation but $99 is just wow expensive for something 
>>> that can be done at no additional charge.
>>> 
>>> Regards Chris
>>> 
>>> Clap along if you feel like a room without a roof!
>>> 
>>>> On 08/03/2014 22:07, Eugenia Firth wrote:
>>>> Hi there
>>>> I have not used Dragon, but my first reaction to this is that the 
>>>> dictation on the Mac is good enough that I would want a lot of benefit 
>>>> more before I would want to spend $99 for it. I find the one that already 
>>>> comes with Mavericks to be pretty accurate. Do they let you have a trial 
>>>> first?
>>>> 
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Gigi
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>> On Mar 8, 2014, at 1:08 PM, Eileen Misrahi <eileen.misr...@gmail.com> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hello All,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Dragon is launching a new dictate software for Mac. There is an 
>>>>> introductory price of US $99.99. My question for the list is: With the 
>>>>> ability dictate and navigate the Mac via speech, what would be the 
>>>>> avantages in investing in Dragon? One feature that caught my attention 
>>>>> was the ability to transcribe an single voice audio to script. I have 
>>>>> used Dragon Naturally Speaking on the PC side and have been able to work 
>>>>> it with JAWS without J-Say. Also, has anyone used Dragon with VO running 
>>>>> in the bacground for support?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks for any input on this subject. Oh by the way, if anyone is 
>>>>> interested, the promotion goes until 3/31.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Eileen
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
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> close this message out by saying this I've not had any real problems with 
> Dragon version three and use the voiceover. If anyone has any questions feel 
> free to write me off last night be happy to answer them when I have time. 
> Thank you all very much for reading. Please note that I'm dictating this to 
> my phone because I'm out and about. Brett this message and wanted to at least 
> begin the process of explaining that all is not quite the way that it appears.

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