Thanks. I'm not even talking about training, though - I cannot dictate anything. I cannot see how to start or pause dictation, access settings, or anything else. My understanding was that the trial is a time-limited version of the full program, so in theory I should have full access to all features. Either way, just dictating would be more than I can do now. On Mar 9, 2014, at 8:18 PM, Maurice Mines <maurice.mi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> That afternoon, now then reading this message again you > installed a trial of Dragon. Unfortunately the trial and the full version do > not behave the same. For instance I don't know if in the trial if you can > make many adjustments. Two in the flow version however once the product is > installed the screens leading you through the training work for the most part > one just has to interact with much of the training materials as they are > based in a funny type of HTML. But overall I found them to be usable. The > other thing you might want to know is that Dragon uses the TextEdit interface > in order to store its text before you transfer it into an application. > Although this is very confusing to a voiceover user. I would strongly suggest > that when using the application used to set up whatever profile you're going > to use and pick from the options in the speech menu. For instance, I prefer > to start my dictation from a sleep state. This way I can isolate the Dragon > functions from the voiceover functions. But if one wanted to one could start > the microphone immediately by any least microphone on selection for instance. > And these all in very different windows. The best way I know of to keep track > of things, if you can is get a braille display and certainly keep looking at > it at all times because the bell displays can assure you where the cursor is > the most part in Michigan figure voiceovers burial preferences differently. > They stated (if not tried version for yet. But I'm guessing that it is much > like version 3 so once it is installed a blind person should not have many > problems with it. > > We further note I don't work for the company, but I do use the product > virtually every day. Because of the written expression disorder that I > mentioned last night, without Dragon I probably would not have a job. Have a > good rest of the evening. > > Sincerely Maurice mines. > student accessibility aid. > Voicemail phone 360-524-0791. > School/work email address, maurice.mi...@pcc.edu. > On Mar 9, 2014, at 7:53 AM, Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com> wrote: > >> I'd love to know what you did then. I installed a trial of Dragon a few >> weeks ago, opened it up, and Voiceover hardly even saw that a window was >> there. I could configure nothing, there were no instructions, nothing. Yes, >> I enabled it in my security settings. >> >> As to screen navigation, I know someone for whom that is a must. This person >> has limited use of one hand and no use of the other, so relies on speech >> commands to do just about everything. A headset is a must, true. >> On Mar 9, 2014, at 12:33 AM, Maurice Mines <maurice.mi...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Good evening, before we start characterizing software good, or bad. I think >>> we need to stop and try and think of who might be reading this. Most people >>> it is true don't need dictation but some of us were actually have verified >>> written expression disorders and other disabling conditions that require >>> the use of dragon would be helpful to make certain that we keep those >>> people than mine. Personally I do use Dragon because of the above-mentioned >>> written expression disorder. I've only used version three until five have >>> had no real problems with voiceover. But I also use a braille wdisplay >>> separate from my normal computing experience. I know that there is some >>> concern about being able to use the product by telling it what to do as far >>> as screen motion I think though that you run the risk of entangling with >>> VoiceOver and that could lead to some headaches. When I get the chance I >>> will actually use version four and will see how good or bad it is with >>> VoiceOver. The concerns that Dragon is inaccessible are not true. I have >>> not had any problems using it after making a few modifications they are >>> minor. The biggest thing one needs to remember is one should use the >>> headset and keep voiceover and Dragon separate as far as >>> >>> Sincerely, Maurice Mines. >>> Student accessibility aid. >>> Voicemail phone, 360-524-0791. >>> Work/school email address, maurice.mi...@pcc.edu. >>> >>> On Mar 8, 2014, at 8:57 PM, Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Dragon for Mac v3.x is inaccessible, even the company admits to that. I >>>> haven't tested out v4 yet. Still, if it lacks things like voice commands >>>> to move around and edit text, or move up and down menus and tables, I >>>> don't see the point. For straight dictation, the Mac does well. That said, >>>> Dragon learns as you correct it, whereas the mac does not, and Dragon is >>>> (from reviews I've read) more accurate even out of the box, with no >>>> training. If you have problems with the keyboard, look at Dragon, but be >>>> sure to test if for accessibility and the features you will need. If you >>>> need basic dictation and will not be dictating exclusively, I'd save my >>>> money. Those are just my thoughts. >>>> On Mar 8, 2014, at 6:04 PM, David Chittenden <dchitten...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Interesting, I believe the ScanSoft speech recognition is the basis for >>>>> both speech recognition systems. Given that Mac Dictate can now be loaded >>>>> directly on the Mac for continuous speech recognition, Dragon would most >>>>> likely only be beneficial if one needed to use more granulated Command >>>>> and Control rather than just speech dictation recognition. That said, I >>>>> have no idea how well Dragon will be integrated with VoiceOver. >>>>> >>>>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA >>>>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com >>>>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>>> On 9 Mar 2014, at 11:25, Apple boy <christopher...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Ditto. Not that I use dictation but $99 is just wow expensive for >>>>>> something that can be done at no additional charge. >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards Chris >>>>>> >>>>>> Clap along if you feel like a room without a roof! >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 08/03/2014 22:07, Eugenia Firth wrote: >>>>>>> Hi there >>>>>>> I have not used Dragon, but my first reaction to this is that the >>>>>>> dictation on the Mac is good enough that I would want a lot of benefit >>>>>>> more before I would want to spend $99 for it. I find the one that >>>>>>> already comes with Mavericks to be pretty accurate. Do they let you >>>>>>> have a trial first? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>> Gigi >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Mar 8, 2014, at 1:08 PM, Eileen Misrahi <eileen.misr...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hello All, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Dragon is launching a new dictate software for Mac. There is an >>>>>>>> introductory price of US $99.99. My question for the list is: With the >>>>>>>> ability dictate and navigate the Mac via speech, what would be the >>>>>>>> avantages in investing in Dragon? One feature that caught my attention >>>>>>>> was the ability to transcribe an single voice audio to script. I have >>>>>>>> used Dragon Naturally Speaking on the PC side and have been able to >>>>>>>> work it with JAWS without J-Say. Also, has anyone used Dragon with VO >>>>>>>> running in the bacground for support? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks for any input on this subject. Oh by the way, if anyone is >>>>>>>> interested, the promotion goes until 3/31. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>> Eileen >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>>>>> an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>>> an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Have a great day, >>>> Alex Hall >>>> mehg...@icloud.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. So let me come >>>> close this message out by saying this I've not had any real problems with >>>> Dragon version three and use the voiceover. If anyone has any questions >>>> feel free to write me off last night be happy to answer them when I have >>>> time. Thank you all very much for reading. Please note that I'm dictating >>>> this to my phone because I'm out and about. Brett this message and wanted >>>> to at least begin the process of explaining that all is not quite the way >>>> that it appears. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> >> -- >> Have a great day, >> Alex Hall >> mehg...@icloud.com >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Have a great day, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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