I think that the best way to approach this with people who don't actually use braille is to give concrete examples of what you cannot now do with the braille and what you want to do with it. Then if possible explain something about how that would work or how it can be done. Even with people who may be working on making braille available, if they don't use it themselves, they are like people who are trying to pik a foreign language but still don't understand the nuances of it. So we have to try to find ways of explaining that will be understood. This of course isn't easy.
> -- > Cheryl > I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf. > I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper thrown in the trash! > Then God gave me a new heart and life: > His joy for my despairing tears! > And now, every day: > "This I call to mind, and therefore I have hope: > The steadfast love of the Lord never ceases; > his mercies never come to an end; > they are new every morning; > great is your faithfulness." > (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV) > On Aug 19, 2014, at 7:09 AM, Anders Holmberg <and...@pipkrokodil.se> wrote: > > Hi! > For me i want voiceover to have better braille support. > But i don't know how to describe it so people can understand it. > /A >> 18 aug 2014 kl. 19:59 skrev The Believer <ancient.ali...@icloud.com>: >> >> Are you wanting full braille access without VO involved at all? Perhaps I >> am pragmatic about this as I take advantage of what I have. It may be I do >> not realize what I am not missing. :) >> >> From The Believer. . . >> What if it were true? >> ancient.ali...@icloud.com >> >>> On 8/18/2014 10:24 AM, Sabahattin Gucukoglu wrote: >>> When it's muted. It can't be completely off. >>> >>> Different displays will be different for convenient access from the display >>> itself, but you can still (I would argue, inconveniently) access VoiceOver >>> from the keyboard while using braille, no matter the display. Ditto for >>> the trackpad, if you have one. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
