While I realize that braille on the Mac still has plenty of room for improvement, i am still glad to have it. For one thing, to say that it is behind "even" compared to other graphical screenreaders fails to acknowledge that most of the other screenreaders have been under development for years and are being worked on by companies that concentrate on blindness or low vision issues. So I am not thinking that I would necessarily expect voiceover's braille to be in the lead at this point. Furthermore, I would not like to see Apple give up on braille and leave its further progress to companies that will charge me a great deal of money to add their products to my computer. Certainly there are free screenreaders and certainly the need for the pricing can honestly be debated; that is not my point. I appreciate that much useful effort is being made and I intend to do everything I can to encourage this while at the same time pointing out the shortcomings. I am not saying we should just accept whatever is given because it is built in to the product without additional cost nor am i saying we should hold the braille in Apple to a lower standard but I am saying these factors need to be taken into account.
> On Aug 18, 2014, at 12:59 PM, The Believer <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote: > > Are you wanting full braille access without VO involved at all? Perhaps I > am pragmatic about this as I take advantage of what I have. It may be I do > not realize what I am not missing. :) > > From The Believer. . . > What if it were true? > ancient.ali...@icloud.com > > On 8/18/2014 10:24 AM, Sabahattin Gucukoglu wrote: >> When it's muted. It can't be completely off. >> >> Different displays will be different for convenient access from the display >> itself, but you can still (I would argue, inconveniently) access VoiceOver >> from the keyboard while using braille, no matter the display. Ditto for the >> trackpad, if you have one. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
